making a "music video"

[amikhchi]

I am trying to make a sort of music video from specific parts of a mvoie (star wars ep 3)

i've tried several different methods from the guides section (dvd decrypter, rejig, vob2mpg, smartrip) to get this dvd ripped so i can play around with it in adobe premiere...

here's the problem, i can rip the movie, but when i import it, it comes in as 29.97 fps (and yes i made sure to set the project to 24), so the movie is sped up and shortened to 1hr 52 min, when in reality it is 2 hrs 20 min... i did the math and that is the problem, it's supposed to be 24 but it imports as 29.97, i dont' understand why this happens, how do i fix it?

[amikhchi]

forgot to mention, there are about 7 1gb vob files on the dvd, but when i import it comes in as a 5.2gb file or something close tto that, so is the problem coming from the ripping?

[guns1inger]

The VOB files can contain several different titles. Premiere is probably only loading one of them. Try using VOB2MPG first, to extract the contents into mpg files, then loading just the mpg file into Premiere instead.

[amikhchi]

thanks for the reply, but i've tried that, it seems like it is ripping at 29.97 when it should be ripping at 23.976...
even in dvd decrypter it says the total file size should be ~7gb but it comes out at 5.42

[aedipuss]

ripping has nothing to do with fps. at all. try this. use anydvd or whatever you use to unprotect dvds and copy the video_ts folder to your hard drive. open it with dvdshrink and use the re-author mode with one audio track selected and use start/end frames to cut out the clips one at a time giving each a separate folder. rename the resulting vobs in numerical order. i.e. vts_01_1.vob then vts_01_2.vob.... etc. put all the vobs in a single folder and use vob2mpg to join them into a single mpeg-2. if you have dvdlabpro use it and the rewrite gop timecode to correct the timestamps. then author. burn dvd.

[Noahtuck]

Am i missing something here ??

What makes you think the dvd is 23 fps ??
And as aedipuss stated, what makes you think ripping has anything to do with fps ??

Ripping just transfers the files on the dvd while removing copy protection, ect. it does not change anything...

And if you start changing the fps in another program, like during a conversion, from the original fps you are going to end up with problems....

[amikhchi]

well, i understand that, but when i rip it and import it, it goes in as 29.97 fps regardless of what type of project i set it to (23.976 or 29.97), the reason i assume its 23.976 is because when i import it, it's 1 hr 52 min which is 112 min * 60 = 6720 sec * 29.97 = 201398 frames...

that's fine, BUT episode 3 is 2 hrs 20 min which is 8400 sec... 201400 / 8400 ~ 23.976 meaining that is the framerate of the movie... that's why i think it's 23.976, which seems to be the fps of the dvd after doing some research...

but it's not a big deal anymore becuase i used anydvd to unlock, and tmpgenc xpress to rip it and encode it to mpg, it's the right length and all now

[guns1inger]

but it's not a big deal anymore becuase i used anydvd to unlock, and tmpgenc xpress to rip it and encode it to mpg, it's the right length and all now

And you have lost a generation of quality to a needless re-encode. You have been doing something wrong to get the results you have been getting.

[Noahtuck]

You might want to open one of the VOB's on the actual dvd itself with Gspot or Avicodec to get the FPS for sure.....

It's kind of hard to know what you are working with when you don't have your location listed, or the version of the dvd, region, format, ect.

Any program you import it in is prob. going to report it as what it actually is, regardless of what you set it to convert it to....

You could do this sooooooooo much easier... with no re-converting, but maybe that's just me.... 8)