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    I gave this program a shot. First off, when trying to burn 2 videos with Nero Vision it says I need about 7gigs to burn it. I decided to use a Dual Layer DVD.

    However now when I put those 2 same files in DVD-Lab pro, it says I only need 4.13gb to burn. Is DVD-Lab pro converting my videos in order to keep them at a size to fit on a DVD? Because I would much rather burn to a dual layer disc and not have the files lose quality. Can anyone help me on this?


    Finally, when trying to compile the DVD I get a pre-verification fails error. Can anyone help me get passed this who has had this issue? The error log is listed below:


    *** DVDLAB2 Verification Log ***
    12 - 17 - 2006 -- 23:48:38


    ************************
    * *
    * VMG Verification *
    * *
    ************************


    Number of VTS - 1
    Number of Menus: 1


    Menu 01 - Type - Dummy

    Number of imported VTS: 0

    ************************
    * *
    * VTS Verification *
    * *
    ************************


    <<< VTS Number 1 >>>
    Number of Titles: 2


    Title 01 - Type - ES or PES
    Segment 1, Video File J:\Boxing\Ali vs Frazier Trilogy\Ali - Frazier I.mpv
    Frame Size: 704 X 480
    Frame Rate 4 [1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    Aspect Ratio: 43 [43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    MPEG Video Type: 2 [1--MPEG 1, 2--MPEG 2]
    Chroma: 1 [1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    GOP 1, size - 365052
    GOP 2, size - 237248
    GOP 3, size - 44284
    Segment 1, Audio File J:\Boxing\Ali vs Frazier Trilogy\Ali - Frazier I.ac3
    Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 2, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 256000
    Segment 1, Subtitle File : None



    Title 02 - Type - VOB
    Segment 1, Video File J:\Boxing\Ali vs Frazier Trilogy\Ali - Frazier II.vob
    Video type does not match
    Frame size: 704 X 480
    Frame rate: 4 [1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    Aspect Ratio: 43 [43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    Chroma: 1 [1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    Audio Stream Count: 0
    Subtitle Stream Count: 0



    Number of Menus: 8


    Menu 01 - Type - Dummy


    Menu 02 - Type - Still
    nMenu cell count - 1

    Menu Image File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\54613568_tmp1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480
    Menu Audio File - None
    Menu Sub-Picture File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\54613568_tmpsub1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480


    Menu 03 - Type - Still
    nMenu cell count - 1

    Menu Image File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\75203648_tmp1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480
    Menu Audio File - None
    Menu Sub-Picture File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\75203648_tmpsub1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480


    Menu 04 - Type - Still
    nMenu cell count - 1

    Menu Image File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\74850448_tmp1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480
    Menu Audio File - None
    Menu Sub-Picture File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\74850448_tmpsub1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480


    Menu 05 - Type - Motion
    Menu Video File C:\Program Files\DVDlabPro2\Templates\curl.m2v
    Frame size: 720 X 480
    Frame rate 4 [1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    Aspect Ratio: 169 [43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    MPEG Video Type: 2 [1--MPEG 1, 2--MPEG 2]
    Chroma: 1 [1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    GOP 1, size - 276997
    GOP 2, size - 306955
    Menu Audio File - None
    Menu Sub-Picture File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\165995624_tmpsub1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480
    nMenu cell count - 1


    Menu 06 - Type - Motion
    Menu Video File C:\Program Files\DVDlabPro2\Templates\curlmen3to7.m2v
    Frame size: 720 X 480
    Frame rate 4 [1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    Aspect Ratio: 169 [43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    MPEG Video Type: 2 [1--MPEG 1, 2--MPEG 2]
    Chroma: 1 [1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    GOP 1, size - 277236
    GOP 2, size - 306669
    Menu Audio File - None
    Menu Sub-Picture File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\55298408_tmpsub1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480
    nMenu cell count - 1


    Menu 07 - Type - Motion
    Menu Video File C:\Program Files\DVDlabPro2\Templates\rev1.m2v
    Frame size: 720 X 480
    Frame rate 4 [1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    Aspect Ratio: 169 [43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    MPEG Video Type: 2 [1--MPEG 1, 2--MPEG 2]
    Chroma: 1 [1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    GOP 1, size - 271191
    GOP 2, size - 312471
    Menu Audio File - None
    Menu Sub-Picture File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\85478936_tmpsub1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480
    nMenu cell count - 1


    Menu 08 - Type - Motion
    Menu Video File C:\Program Files\DVDlabPro2\Templates\rev2.m2v
    Frame size: 720 X 480
    Frame rate 4 [1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    Aspect Ratio: 169 [43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    MPEG Video Type: 2 [1--MPEG 1, 2--MPEG 2]
    Chroma: 1 [1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    GOP 1, size - 271015
    GOP 2, size - 312501
    Menu Audio File - None
    Menu Sub-Picture File J:\DVD-Lab Pro 2.0\74857824_tmpsub1.bmp
    Picture size - 720 x 480
    nMenu cell count - 1

    ************************
    * *
    * Status Messages *
    * *
    ************************
    Pre verification fails. Process abort ! - 1998
    Thanks!!
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    DVD Lab Pro does not re-encode your material, so I would suggest that your assets actually fit inside 4.31GB. NeroVision, on the other-hand, re-encodes pretty much everything, even if it doesn't need to.

    Look under your project settings (Project -> Project Properties) and check if you have Accept Movie Sizes set to "Strictly Full-D1". If so, change it to "Full-D1, Broadcast" and try again. Your menus are all 720 x 480, but your source assets for the movie titles are both broadcast 704 x 480
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    Thanks, so then you're saying that I didn't lose any quality whatsoever by burning with DVD-Lab pro?

    BTW...When burning with Nero Vision it says my video's properties are 720x480 whereas DVD-Lab says it's 704x480

    Any ideas on why the discrepancy?

    Thanks again bro!
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    NeroVision is resizing your video to 720 x 480 and re-encoding it, hence the change in size. In short, NeroVision is a second-rate authoring tool.
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    Thank you!

    Is there any way I can check a vob file to see what the video's properties are, such as aspect ratio etc. just so I can be 100% sure?

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    g-spot can read VOB contents. Make sure you download the latest beta (currently 2.6x beta)
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    Thanks gunslinger! Quick question about g-spot.

    It say Pic (w x h) 704x480 so I assume that is the aspect ratio.

    However after that it says SeqExt 720x480.

    Any idea what that means?

    Thanks bro!
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    704 x 480 is the resolution. The Aspect Ratio will be :3 or 16:9 (in this case, 4:3). 704 is a broadcast width that is compliant under the DVD spec. It plays back as 720 x 480.

    However, if you choose very strict format rules in DLP, you can only use true 720 x 480, which is why your footage was refused the first time.
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    Thank you once again

    So what is the best program to use in order to convert my .avi files and non-dvd compliant files to files I can input into DVD Lab Pro? Do you have any recommendations? Also, will the program convert it automatically without losing any quality in video, or will I need to input certain options/settings into the program you recommend in order to achieve this?

    Once again, you have been a great help at helping me understand things
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    I like ProCoder, but it isn't cheap. There used to be a lower cost version, but they seem to have discontinued it. CCE Basic is a good, cheap encoder, and very fast. Tmpgenc is also used a fair bit, as it was one of the first low-cost encoders. It produces good quality output, but is very slow compared to most other encoders.

    On the free front, there is HCenc and Qenc. HCEnc is developing a very good reputation for the quality of it's output. John "FulciLives" Coleman has been experimenting with it of late, and put together this impromptu guide for using FitCD and HCenc to encode for DVD. Have a read here : https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1622800#1622800

    There are other methods - one-click-wonders like ConvertxtoDVD etc, which are certainly simpler to use than the longer process favored by the more experienced. However they invariably produce lower quality output, and you don't learn how the process works behind the scenes, so if something goes wrong (and eventually it will) you have no idea how to fix it.
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    I'll take a look at them now, thanks! Does CCE or procoder encode the complete AVI into DVD ready vob file that will work with DVD Lab pro, or will I have to use the other software to split the audio etc.?

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    ProCoder can output VOBS. I don't believe CCE does.

    That said, I never produce VOBs. DLP prefers working with elementary streams, and works best with elementary streams. I encode video separately to audio, and only bring the two together when I author the disc.
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    Hey bro, I tried out Procoder and it seems to work great. What settings do you use?

    The input file was set to non-interlaced, and then on the output it said Lower/Bottom field first so I left it at that. Any reason to change those settings?

    In terms of quality I used Mastering quality, VBR 2 pass. Not sure if this is what you normally do, as I saw CBR and other possible settings.

    Also, do you use procoder to decode the audio as well and output it to a seperate file, or do you recommend another software that will encode the audio to a DVD Lab Pro format. I believe it was ac3 from what I recall?

    Finally, do you like the quality you get with Procoder in comparisson to CCE, or are they pretty much the same?

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    I use high quality and tweak manually. I don't use mastering quality because it seems to take substantially longer, yet with some source - DV or VHS in particular - often produces lower quality output.

    As to settings - I don't have a particular set. Every video is different and requires it's own tweaking. It is dependent on the type and quality of the source, the running time, and the use for the output. It also becomes more complicated when you are working with NTSC material - is it 23.976 or 29.97 fps ? Do I apply pulldown when I encode, or afterwards ? Again, every video is different.

    For material running 70 minutes or less, I will usually use CBR encoding at a high bitrate. It takes half the time of 2-pass VBR, and gives the best quality. VBR comes into play once you have to drop the bitrate down a bit. What that point is depends somewhat on the source as well as the bitrate, but generally under 8000 kbps I start going to 2-pass.

    I always do my audio separately. I use sound forge or Vegas to do AC3 encoding, however for 2.0 you can use ffmpeggui.

    As to quality differences - it is a personal thing. For some source I believe ProCoder is the better choice. For others there is little difference. CCE is generally faster, and probably a little sharper.
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    Thank you for the reply bro! So just 2 more quick questions.

    When encoding say an AVI file at mastering quality with 2 pass encoding at VBR, the end resulting m2v video file looks worse in quality to the original AVI file. Is this a normal part of the conversion process?

    Also, when converting audio, I installed Vegas, and ran my video file through it. I went to render, and chose .ac3 output. It created an outputed file, however vegas gave me an error at the end saying that it could not open the file. I went to the file itself and opened with WMP, and it worked fine. This should not be a problem correct?

    Only issue I don't like is that the .ac3 file is a lot lower in volume than the original video file. How can I fix this?

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    It really depends on the source. I have had DV sourced material come out looking pretty average using mastering quality, which is why I encode DV material using the Highest Quality mode, and tweak the settings from there.

    If your source is Divx/Xvid avi then I am not surprised if a simple resize/encode looks worse than the original. Divx/Xvid is designed primarily for playback on PC monitors, and some of the encoding methods it uses to keep file sizes down are not as obvious when played back on a PC. Unfortunately these tricks are often exposed when encoding for DVD. Generally I would use avisynth to do any resizing and filtering (deblocking, adaptive sharpening etc) before encoding to mpeg2.

    As for ac3 audio - I encode all my audio to ac3 by default. If you use the right settings then the volume difference should be negligible, however again, source is a major factor, as are the encoding settings you use. ac3 is designed for audio with a wide dynamic range - that is the difference between a pin dropping and an explosion going off is big. MP3 is not designed for this, and most Divx/Xvid files with mp3 audio have had this compressed a great deal. You need to adjust your encoding settings accordingly to compensate for this.
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  17. I have the same error, althought not sure if thats same cause.
    Anyway here is compile log from DVD-Lab PRO:

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    *** DVD Lab Pro Verification Log ***
        9 - 3 - 2007 -- 4:43:15
    
    
    ************************
    *                      *
    *   VMG Verification   *
    *                      *
    ************************
    
    
    Number of VTS - 1
    Number of Menus: 1
    
    
    Menu 01 - Type - Dummy
    
    Number of imported VTS: 0
    
    ************************
    *                      *
    *   VTS Verification   *
    *                      *
    ************************
    
    
    <<< VTS Number 1 >>>
    Number of Titles: 24
    
    
    Title 01 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 192000
    
    
    Title 02 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 192000
    
    
    Title 03 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 192000
    
    
    Title 04 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 192000
    
    
    Title 05 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 192000
    
    
    Title 06 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_06_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 192000
    
    
    Title 07 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_07_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 192000
    
    
    Title 08 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_08_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 192000
    
    
    Title 09 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_09_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 192000
    
    
    Title 10 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_10_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 0
    
    
    Title 11 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_11_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 0
    
    
    Title 12 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_12_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 0
    
    
    Title 13 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_13_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 0
    
    
    Title 14 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_14_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 0
    
    
    Title 15 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_15_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
    	Audio type: AC3_Mot, Channel: 0, Sampling: 48000, Bitrate: 0
    
    
    Title 16 - Type - Joined VOB
    Segment 1, Video File E:\Grandpa\VIDEO_TS\VTS_16_1.VOB
    	Video type does not match
    	Frame size: 720 X 576
    	Frame rate: 3   	[1--23.976, 2--24, 4--29.97, 3--25, 5--30]
    	Aspect Ratio: 43   	[43--4:3, 169--16:9]
    	Chroma: 1   		[1--4:2:0, 2--4:2:2, 3--4:4:4]
    	Audio Stream Count: 1
    	Subtitle Stream Count: 0
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    Originally Posted by guns1inger
    Look under your project settings (Project -> Project Properties) and check if you have Accept Movie Sizes set to "Strictly Full-D1". If so, change it to "Full-D1, Broadcast" and try again. Your menus are all 720 x 480, but your source assets for the movie titles are both broadcast 704 x 480

    Just in the faint hope, I did try this to no avail. Also tried in Project properties>Advanced to tell it to accept non-DVD size - same thing.

    Perhaps I should tell what I am trying to do:

    I have 24 movies made by Nokia cell phone, originals are in .3GP format.
    I used Super v2007 build 23, to easily convert the .3GP stright into DVD-Complaint .VOBs (actually it was the only one which did the job, and did not cause drastic quality loss in the process).

    Then I used the DVD-Lab Pro 2.3 to create 2 Menus: first one being root menu: with 2 background pics, a Play button leading to first movie, and Chapters button leading to second menu, including 24 buttons.

    Pretty simple, isnt it?


    I would very much appreciate any advice on how to solve this problem!
    Thanks!
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    Is your project set to PAL and not NTSC ?

    When you imported the VOBs created by SUPER, did you let DVD Lab Pro demux them ? If not, do so, or use PGCDemux to do it. Either way, DLP works best with elementary streams.
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  19. Originally Posted by guns1inger
    Is your project set to PAL and not NTSC ?

    When you imported the VOBs created by SUPER, did you let DVD Lab Pro demux them ? If not, do so, or use PGCDemux to do it. Either way, DLP works best with elementary streams.
    It seems DVD-Lab did it automatically, as all I have left in videos .mpv and .ac3 files, no matter how many times I throw in the VOBs.
    I think that means it demuxed them? as I also have them in the .VOB folder... so, any other ideas perhpas?
    unless I totally misunderstood....
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  20. Originally Posted by Carmageddon
    Originally Posted by guns1inger
    Is your project set to PAL and not NTSC ?

    When you imported the VOBs created by SUPER, did you let DVD Lab Pro demux them ? If not, do so, or use PGCDemux to do it. Either way, DLP works best with elementary streams.
    It seems DVD-Lab did it automatically, as all I have left in videos .mpv and .ac3 files, no matter how many times I throw in the VOBs.
    I think that means it demuxed them? as I also have them in the .VOB folder... so, any other ideas perhpas?
    unless I totally misunderstood....
    Sorry, yes Target System is set to PAL...
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  21. anyone else? please? I gotta finish this dvd soon
    if someone is willing to and know what to do, remote control can be arranged if thats needed.. but I really wanna get this done...

    and a shameless bump :P
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    I would post at the DLP forums : http://www.mmbforums.com/ipb/index.php
    Plenty of DLP experts there, as well as the author of the software
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    As guns1inger says: Using VOBs as input to your authoring app is not recommended. Elementary streams (m2v + AC3 in this case) is prefered by DVD-Lab. Don't know if this is the source of your problems, but better make it right from the start, and eliminate possible error sources. Also, SUPER, altho great when it comes to converting odd formats, isn't the pinnacle when it comes to standard compliance.

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  24. Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    As guns1inger says: Using VOBs as input to your authoring app is not recommended. Elementary streams (m2v + AC3 in this case) is prefered by DVD-Lab. Don't know if this is the source of your problems, but better make it right from the start, and eliminate possible error sources. Also, SUPER, altho great when it comes to converting odd formats, isn't the pinnacle when it comes to standard compliance.

    /Mats
    Well from what I can tell, dvdlab already did convert the VOBs into mpv and ac3 files.. its only complaint was open GOPs, but from what I read on the forums that is not the problem...

    besides I am afraid to get it all going again.. might loose quality even more if I keep converting from one format to another countless times

    Besides it doesnt make sense, as in SUPER I chose the DVD-Complaint VOB format, not the others...
    Also dvd player (software) opens these VOBs just fine. little slow, but well within tolerance.

    EDIT: thanks guns, I posted as per ur suggestion there as well, hope for a solution
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    Well, I can't convice you, but any app that produces VOBs as output without actually authoring the DVD is plain silly, as (originally) a VOB is just the output from an authoring app, meant to be written to (or already on a) disk. Every app that accepts VOBs as input has to disassemble it at once, in the process of authoring it. DVD compliant mpg would be the best option to use, if elementary streams are not an option.

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  26. Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    Well, I can't convice you, but any app that produces VOBs as output without actually authoring the DVD is plain silly, as (originally) a VOB is just the output from an authoring app, meant to be written to (or already on a) disk. Every app that accepts VOBs as input has to disassemble it at once, in the process of authoring it. DVD compliant mpg would be the best option to use, if elementary streams are not an option.

    /Mats
    Well I am willing to give it a try, whats the best way u recommend to demux them?
    or perhaps I should attempt at starting a new project, importing the files .ac3 and .mpv made by DVD-Lab?
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    No. Don't create VOB files to begin with! That's an ass backwards (if you excuse the expression) way of doing it. VOBs are the end product of authoring a Video DVD, and was never (and never will be) intended as source material for creating a Video DVD. DVD-Lab Pro (notice the pro part!) is a professional tool. It expects professional grade input. I'd not count SUPER as a professional tool, but see if you can't persuade it to output a DVD compliant mpg.
    Or consider a more "user friendly", consumer level authoring app that accepts non specs input. TDA comes to mind.

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  28. Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    No. Don't create VOB files to begin with! That's an ass backwards (if you excuse the expression) way of doing it. VOBs are the end product of authoring a Video DVD, and was never (and never will be) intended as source material for creating a Video DVD. DVD-Lab Pro (notice the pro part!) is a professional tool. It expects professional grade input. I'd not count SUPER as a professional tool, but see if you can't persuade it to output a DVD compliant mpg.
    Or consider a more "user friendly", consumer level authoring app that accepts non specs input. TDA comes to mind.

    /Mats
    I think you underestimate the seriousness of my problem:
    The source is .3GP from Nokia cell!! all my extended google searches gave me very few results that pointed to programs that could convert them to a workable format! of all of them, the only one which managed to covert it WITHOUT quality loss, was SUPER... nothing else. and even then most output formats did not give good results.

    Is it not possible to just demux the vobs to 'normal' input formats, and then reauthor again?
    I dont want to go through the entire process of learning new software all over again, as took me quite a while to figure out this one, and its pretty intuitive, and easy to use to create menu/link VTS sets easily.
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    PGCDemux or Rejig can do it
    Read my blog here.
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  30. Originally Posted by guns1inger
    PGCDemux or Rejig can do it
    I tried them both. PCGDemux only reads from .IFO and the other one has results without the audio for some reason..

    hmm but maybe I can use the resulting m2v files, along with audio from the ac3 made by DLP?
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