DV Codec Question

[foochuck]

I have Sony HDR FX1 HDV Handycam. I use a Canopus DV Storm 2 with my computer.

Is there a big difference between capturing using the Canopus DV Control or using the default DV Control Device that came with my computer?

The reason I ask is because I'm having problems capturing using the Canopus device but the regular device control seems to be working fine (when doing a batch capture with Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.1).

I don't really see any difference between a Microsoft DV AVI and a Canopus DV AVI...

[edDV]

I have Sony HDR FX1 HDV Handycam. I use a Canopus DV Storm 2 with my computer.

Is there a big difference between capturing using the Canopus DV Control or using the default DV Control Device that came with my computer?

The reason I ask is because I'm having problems capturing using the Canopus device but the regular device control seems to be working fine (when doing a batch capture with Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.1).

I don't really see any difference between a Microsoft DV AVI and a Canopus DV AVI...

Are you capturing DV or HDV?

If you are downscaling in the camcorder to DV format then Premiere or WinDV etc. will handle the capture/transfer fine. If you are trying to convert HDV MPeg2 to DV on the fly, then you would need an extremely fast computer or a hardware HDV to DV converter.

If you are feeding DV from the camcorder over IEEE-1394, there is no codec envolved except for monitoring. The DV stream is created in the camcorder and flows directly to the DV-AVI file.

[foochuck]

I am using the camcorder to downgrade the HDV To DV and I'm just capturing in DV at the moment. However using my Canopus hardware and plugging the camera in through the firewire port, I can't do a batch capture in Premiere - it keeps failing, however I can just open the capture window and record a clip if I want.

I don't think Canopus is recognizing something and this is preventing the batch capture from working (the batch capture features works fine when I capture from my DV Deck, however I need to capture from my camera since the footage is originally HDV and I don't have a HDV deck).

[edDV]

I am using the camcorder to downgrade the HDV To DV and I'm just capturing in DV at the moment. However using my Canopus hardware and plugging the camera in through the firewire port, I can't do a batch capture in Premiere - it keeps failing, however I can just open the capture window and record a clip if I want.

I don't think Canopus is recognizing something and this is preventing the batch capture from working (the batch capture features works fine when I capture from my DV Deck, however I need to capture from my camera since the footage is originally HDV and I don't have a HDV deck).

I'd call Adobe. I think there must be something different about the FX-1 in DV mode if the DV deck works. Adobe may have corrected the issue in version 2.0.

In the meantime, you could transfer to the standalone deck and batch capture from that.

[foochuck]

Well that's why I was thinking of just capturing from the firewire port built into my computer as a Microsoft DV AVI...and not using the Canopus Hardware...plus the fact that this Canopus hardware doesn't support Premiere Pro 2.0 is another reason I might do this so I can upgrade to Preimere Pro 2.0.

I'm just not sure how the Microsoft DV AVI compares to the Canopus DV AVI's I currently catpure...?

[edDV]

Well that's why I was thinking of just capturing from the firewire port built into my computer as a Microsoft DV AVI...and not using the Canopus Hardware...plus the fact that this Canopus hardware doesn't support Premiere Pro 2.0 is another reason I might do this so I can upgrade to Preimere Pro 2.0.

I'm just not sure how the Microsoft DV AVI compares to the Canopus DV AVI's I currently catpure...?

The codec isn't being used for capture. The DV is encoded in the camcorder and comes to the hard drive DV-AVI file in first generation. The DV is only decoded (with the MS-DV or Canopus DV or Adobe DV codec) when a filter or transition is applied during editing.

During capture, a DV codec is used to monitor the DV stream but the stream itself flows directly to the DV-AVI file without being decoded.

In Premiere you have the option to use hardware, use the default Adobe DV codec or another DV codec when performing filtering or transitions in Premiere. This is all in the preferences. Normally, Adobe will defer to DV Storm hardware for filters supported by DV Storm and use it's own codec for Premiere filters.

[foochuck]

I see. So what types of hardware (affordable) would you recommend besdies DV Storm (something that is compatible with Premiere Pro 2.0) ?

[edDV]

I see. So what types of hardware (affordable) would you recommend besdies DV Storm (something that is compatible with Premiere Pro 2.0) ?

Are you using external servers or internal RAID or just DV from local drives?

The big step up is to external RAID servers with SDI in/out. That opens up uncompressed editing pro style. Here is the list of Premeire Pro hardware support.
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/video_partners/