Important Vista Bug

[Abbadon]

Hi guys,

For those planning to upgrade, another negative report from users:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/26/vista_copying_bug/

http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/03/27/038227.shtml

[JohnnyMalaria]

And the simple solution is to disable thumbnail generation. It's worth reading the TechNet thread to find out more about this specific issue.

[guns1inger]

It's worth reading the TechNet thread to find out more about this specific issue

But I don't want to be informed. I just want to push as much negative news as I can without being concerned about silly things like 'context'.

[Dv8ted2]

And the simple solution is to disable thumbnail generation.

The obvious answer is the end-user should not have to. Microsoft's development cycle was a lot longer than most companies have on software releases. There should not be bugs of this magnitude.

I have Vista installed in Virtual PC, but let me sum up my thoughts on Vista so far....

Buggy, poor driver support...I got a hundred prompts just trying to install a sound driver, and no built in support for gigabit ethernet. The UAC is annoying. I have yet to see any upside.

[Abbadon]

It's worth reading the TechNet thread to find out more about this specific issue

But I don't want to be informed. I just want to push as much negative news as I can without being concerned about silly things like 'context'.

Just for you to know, the post was intended to help those poor folks that are handling huge files, such as movies. I am not interested in promoting FUD, I am not a Linux/Mac fan boy.

By the way, I have no plans to pay US$200.00 for Vista, so I don't care a little bit.

Saludos

[TooLFooL]

any windows user should know not to upgrade the OS until SP1 is released!!!

[CBC]

You mean any "smart" Windows user.

[Dv8ted2]

any windows user should know not to upgrade the OS until SP1 is released!!!

You would think, but I work for a mortgage software company. Many of our customers think they need Vista, so they force us to learn Vista.

[thecoalman]

Many of our customers think they need Vista.

Funny how that works, besides compatibility issues for new software and hardware most people can get by with win95/Win era machine. You have people going out a "buying the latest greatest" machines that can run Doom 3 easily then you ask them what they use it for only to find out it's for surfing the web, e-mail and other simple things.

I mentioned in the latest poll from Yoda how IMO computers are reaching the point where people simply don't need all these features. Microsoft won't do it but what they should release is a "super basic" operating system. I'll bet 50% or greater of the people using a computer need 3 things, Internet communication*, digital image manipulation, and a word processor. Of those three only image manipulation requires a fast machine, a word processor benefits from a fast machine when working with huge documents but that would be a rare occurrence for your average person.

*By this I'm lumping web browser, e-mail and other communication tools like IM's together.

[redwudz]

I guess I should throw in at least one voice of dissent. I like Vista. It doesn't crash, it doesn't have problems transferring large files, it has no problems deleting or accessing files over the LAN, it doesn't do anything I find objectionable. And I do run gigabit ethernet. I did disable UAC, but only because I have AVG, Spyware Blaster and Spybot, that do much better and don't bother me every time I try to do anything on the computer. Vista is set up by default to protect the absolute nerd. If you aren't in that group, you have little to worry about.

Yes, it needs a fair amount of memory, and CPU speed, but I have both on my computers. I like the file handling better than XP, and the desktop graphics are nice. It loads quicker than XP. It makes XP look old fashioned, similar to when I switched from W98 to XP.

If you look to: http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.php/Windows_Vista_Software_Compatibility_List; There are not that many programs that it doesn't support. I have had zero problems with drivers, even on a fairly new MB.

And I have had very few problems with the programs I run, both video and graphic. I am running it on a AMD dual core CPU and a Gigabyte MB with about a 16% overclock, and perfectly stable.

Maybe I am the only one out there with no problems.

[JohnnyMalaria]

I mentioned in the latest poll from Yoda how IMO computers are reaching the point where people simply don't need all these features.

I think we reached that about 10 years ago.....

...I'd even venture to say that Windows 3.11 is sufficient for most general needs.

But, such are consumerism and capitalism that "improvements" will always come along. Just like with new cars, televisions, cell phones etc etc.

[JohnnyMalaria]

Maybe I am the only one out there with no problems.

No - I'm a fellow dissenter....

[GMaq]

Many of our customers think they need Vista.

Microsoft won't do it but what they should release is a "super basic" operating system. I'll bet 50% or greater of the people using a computer need 3 things, Internet communication*, digital image manipulation, and a word processor. Of those three only image manipulation requires a fast machine, a word processor benefits from a fast machine when working with huge documents but that would be a rare occurrence for your average person.

*By this I'm lumping web browser, e-mail and other communication tools like IM's together.

Hi,
This is where Linux is at right now, and thus the increasing number of threads interested in it. It's not really video friendly yet, but anyone without any pre-conceived notions (ie child, elderly person) could get onto it just as easily as Windows. That said I'm dual-booting it with XP simply for the video side, but Vista is triggering a backlash in this area, perhaps deserved, perhaps not.

[SCDVD]

The linked article in the OPs post mentions 256 MB of RAM. What would anyone expect with only 256 MB of RAM with Vista?

For those who want to have a really basic OS, you can rummage around on Ebay and buy MS-DOS and be happy with your "super basic OS". Or if you really want a good dumbed-down computing experience, you can look a little harder and get a copy of CP-M and run it on an old Z-80 PC. This is a bit like someone whining about Photoshop being too complicated and "sticking with" MS Paint. Some people just can't cope with change. They are usually, lazy, stupid or stubborn. So they cover up by attacking whatever is new.

[Dv8ted2]

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[ranchhand]

As a side thought reOS; One great thing about DOS was virus removal. It was only with the establishment of the GUI interface (AKA Windows 3.xxx) that viruses really got difficult and hard-core. The advantage of DOS is that a virus had no way of protecting itself such as modern rootkits and virii nowadays that immediately re-establish themselves when deleted; once you found out where the problem file was, you entered DOS, navigated to that file and deleted it. End of virus. Now I tear my hair out removing a virus, and if a rootkit sometimes it is actually faster to just reformat the unit and reimage.

[CrayonEater]

But I don't want to be informed. I just want to push as much negative news as I can without being concerned about silly things like 'context'.

Informed users i.e. smart users don't trade a perfectly-good OS for a crappy one, at least without a good reason.

It's important to know where the bugs lie in any OS, and this is another one which, for me and for many users, could be pretty significant.

[INFRATOM]

New computers come with Vista and psychologically it is hard to order XP or prev version OS. In my opinion they have to deal with it until it is established. Microsoft has been calling it challenges and cost of ownership!!

[zoobie]

unfortunately, new comps already come loaded with vista and the consumer has no choice...my way or the highway kinda thinking

[jimmalenko]

any windows user should know not to upgrade the OS until SP1 is released!!!

As a sys admin in a small business (50-100 PCs), my rule of thumb is SP1 + 3 months. Certainly worked well for XP.