Playback problems from DVD rip/burn

[stagescrew]

Not sure if this is even the right place to start, but here goes...I'm new to Macs (not new to rip/burn on PC's) and have consistently had playback problems with several ripped/burned DVDs on one particular player. No errors from MTR, no issues with Dvd2oneX, plays fine on: MacBook, PC, cheapass Polaroid standalone player, Philips DVP5920, but does not play on a Philips DVDR3355. I have some new media (verbatim) on the way, but I'm leaning towards some other problem related to Mac/burning issues.

I tried burning directly from Dvd2oneX and also saving it as img file and using a burn folder in Finder, all with the same playback results. I'm using DVD-R, and did not have the problem when burned to a DVD+RW.

I can consistently take the "bad" disk, burn a diskcopy with it on the PC with Sonic (software that came on the PC) from the PC's cd/dvd rom to an Iomega USB DVD burner. The resultant copy then plays fine on the Philips DVDR3355.

I'm not real sure where the problem lies, but hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction. This has not happened when ripping/burning on the PC. Any help is really appreciated.

[pixel zombie]

try skipping dvd2onex and then burning with Toast, i usually use the latest version of MTR and then use toast 7 to compress the whole disc or i simply just burn the main feature...if i do use dvd2onex, i use an older version as i don't like the interface of the latext version....you can also try burning the disc from the Video tab and not the Data tab...

[stagescrew]

I don't have toast 7, unfortunately. I'm confused regarding your "video tab" vs "data tab" statement. What program are you talking about?

[pixel zombie]

in toast 6 and 7 you can burn the video_ts folder in 2 different ways, as a udf disc under the data tab or "DVD-Video from VIDEO_ts...

[stagescrew]

I finally got the new media, Verbatim (MCC03RG20) and the same problem happens.

Any ideas?

[terryj]

Hello!
have you checked our handy dandy DVD Player lists on
the left of the screen?
Philips DVDR3355

You are not the only one with Problems with this machine.
Seems like this would have been a good one to
keep the reciept and box on, as this one is a doorstop.
:P

In the future, for FYI, you followed the correct path of troubleshooting,
you just somehow came up with the wrong
conclusion: The Mac was at fault.
Granted you were a PC user, so an unfamiliar environment
probably scared you into thinking it was your mac.

But, no errors out of MTR, No errors out of DTOX,
and plays fine on

the Mac, on your PC, and a Cheap ass Polariod,
and a Philips DVP5920

should have pointed you directly to the problematic
Phillips.

[stagescrew]

I understand it is a problem with this particultar philips. However, this problem occurs only with DVD's burnt on the Mac. Never been a problem with DVD's burnt on the PC. I've read several negative posts about the Matushitsa Super drives on the Mac as well, but not enough details to understand why.

I think I have elimiated the original media as the problem, but I still want to be able to burn disks that will play on this player burnt from the Mac. I'm off to a store to find some 8X media, assuming the burn speed is an issue. Several other threads here suggest, quality issues when burning too slow on blanks rated higher. The Mac Superdrive burns 4X tops, and the Iomega on the PC is 12X.

ETA: and yes, (not trying to hyjack my own thread ) I did check out the DVD player reviews before I purchased it. I've went through 3 different ones, various problems, but at the time, it was new enough on the market that there just was not too many reviews, (good, bad, or otherwise) out there. It had the features I wanted at a price I was willing to pay.

[terryj]

The slowest compatible speed you can burn at is 1x.
You can burn at this speed on ANY media, whether
8x or 16x. If a 1x burned Verbatim disc do not play on this
particular Phillips, then it is the Phillips.

The discs that you are burning, unless your burning it
on some really, REALLY crappy media,
I'm talking Optodisc, NEXXT, PioData, Walgreens Optium,
or Teac/KHypermedia, is NOT the issue.

The fact is some Players are fickle. Period. I have two RCA 5240Ps,
a Sanyo DRW-7100, a Batman KidZone Player, and two Magnovox MWR106D's...
and the Sanyo is the most fickle of the bunch.


It won't play Taiyo Uden discs burnt at ANY SPEED, only likes
SONY discs ( amazingly TY coded), and Factory Discs.
It gets regulated to just playing Factory Movies in the bedroom.
it sits on top of a RCA 5240P that gets a regular workout on
Taiyo Udens, TDK, Verbatim, Verbatim DL's without batting
an eye.

I know you spent some cash on this..but I'm telling you it's the
Phillips. Stop wasting your money trying to find the right discs.
Here is the last straw you should try:
Go get a spindle of Taiyo Uden discs from Supermediastore.com
or Rima.com. Burn a test DVD off of two, one at 4x and one at 1x.

IF the Phillips can't handle those, which I believe it won't,
then it's the Phillips.

Sometimes the manufacturers don't calibate the lasers or
set the firmware correctly. Probably the case with this Phillips.
The fact that all your others aren't having problems,
still points to the Phillips IMHO.

[stagescrew]

So, hijacking my own thread there is firmware update I noticed at the philips site. Would you suggest updating the firmware? I did have lots of unrelated problems with this recorder, finally solved by exchanging it for a recorder with a significantly later manufacture date.

[stagescrew]

Happy ending

All I found was 25 pack of 8X DVD+R disks, they were cheap (and inexpensive). I figured they would work, and they did. But it did not help me solve the DVD-R disk problem at any speed.

I wound up upgrading the firmware of the recorder, successfully (unlike many people at cdfreaks forum) while I was waiting for the Mac to 1X burn a DVD-R.

Now I have 7 copies of SFU Season 3 Disk 4 burned on the Mac that play just fine now.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

[terryj]

u r welcome, glad to help.