32 inch 1080p lcd

[mol3000]

i need a very good 32 inch lcd for the bed room.... THE PICTURE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.... i didnt see any in frys or best buy.... i did see some 37 inches but dont want to pay that much right now.... can anyone point me to right direction?????

[bobkart]

I found a few with Google. For example:

http://focuscamera.com/sc/froogle-lead-1.asp?id=964604787&rf=froogle&dfdate=11_03_2006&sid=459669663

[neomaine]

what's your budget...

[BJ_M]

Sharp LC-32D40U 32 Inch Aquos LCD Flat Panel

[mol3000]

Sharp LC-32D40U 32 Inch Aquos LCD Flat Panel

its not 1080p.... but i will still check out the reviews

[JimmyJoeBob]

So do you have 1080p input? Blu-Ray or HD-DVD currently is the only source for 1080p. A 32" with 720p and HD input or even DVD up convert should be a beautiful picture on a small 32" box.

[neomaine]

mol3000,

At 32", you will NOT see any appreciable difference between 720p and 1080p for any HD source. The 1080p could make things (much) worse for any standard definition input. Even 720p will be only average, at best.

The only time it would make a difference (at 1080p vs. 720p) at this size is for a computer display where the extra pixels will give you more desktop to work with.

Since price does seem to be a consideration, I would go with LCD for both upfront and long term costs. Besides, I don't think plasma comes in anything less than 40", maybe even 42". Though it would have a better picture. I still wouldn't recommend it for its additional price (though they ARE tumbling, but so is LCD) and power requirements.

I also wouldn't go by the picture you see at a big box store. Two major reasons, they don't tune the TVs before they put them on display. They save this for the added cost of installation, if at all. And, you don't really know what they are sending for a signal to the sets, in most cases. They go so far as minor tuning and specific signals to help the TVs they like the most -- the ones that give them the most profit.

I suggest you: Find where you fit in the price range, pick it, tune it until it shows you what you want. In general:

Top Models: I list them here because you do pay some extra for extra features
- Sony
- Sharp
- Panasonic
- Toshiba

Mid Tier Models:
- Westinghouse
- Sceptre
- Olevia
- LG

I've seen peoples responses to all the above brands, who have the patience, get what they consider a very nice picture. Personally, I have Sceptre 42" 1080p LCD that would be considered a low-end brand. It took me a month or so until it 'feels just right'. (My family likes it brighter than what it should be...). I've got satellite (prefer smoother but cleaner picture versus cable's sharper but grainier picture), an XBOX360 as both a game console (720p now, 1080p games coming) and upconverting DVD player, and a computer hooked up. I wouldn't change it for the world. I -may- have gone plasma, but between the game usage, computer usage and twice (at least) power requirement I couldn't justify the slightly better picture.

[BJ_M]

there are several 37" plasmas - just to clarify

Panasonic TH37PH9UK 37" HD Plasma Display (1024x768)

[neomaine]

BJ_M,

Thanks for the correction. Strange resolution though. Square TV or rectangle pixels?

[BJ_M]

as long as they make 50-55" plasmas -- there will be 37" plasmas ...

the glass is ~96" raw - - they can get two 42's or one 50/55 plus a 37 out of a sheet ..

[Epicurus8a]

A "leading consumer reporting agency" (you know the one) rates these 32" models as the best

Toshiba TheaterWide HD 32HL66 $1300
Sony Bravia KDL-V32XBR1 $2000
JVC LT-32X787 $1400
Philips 32PF7321D $1000
Samsung LN-S3292D $1500
Sony Bravia KDL-32S2000 $1400
Samsung LN-S3241D $1400
Samsung LN-S3251D $1600
Maxent ML-32HLT21 $900
Magnavox 32MF231D/37 $1000
RCA L32WD12 $1000
Panasonic TC-32LX60 $1300
Sharp Aquos LC-32DA5U $1600
Panasonic TC-32LX600 $1400
Vizio L32 HDTV $800

[BJ_M]

some of the top ones on that list look like crap

[budz]

Best Buy will have a 32 inch LCD Westinghouse TV on sale for $479.00 on Black Friday. I was told by a Best Buy sales dude the Westinghouse LCD's are actually manufactured by Toshiba.

The Sony Bravia KDL-V32XBR1 price has dropped dramatically but for $2000.00 you can buy a Samsung 40 inch LCD for about the same price. :P

[BJ_M]

BB will just make up who makes what panel -- their "branded" panels are all made in china by 2nd tier manufa., usually Sampo (and others) - this goes also for westinghouse, proxima , etc ... LG has the largest LCD factory btw.


as for plasmas:

Who Makes What? Plasma TVs

There are only a handful of major plasma display element (i.e. plasma glass) manufacturers in the world. There is always talk and hype about who makes what in the Plasma TV/Monitor industry (as well as LCD and Projectors). Many manufacturers buy their plasma display elements from an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM). Just to set the story straighter on a few products please see the following notes on which manufacturers make what parts: Just to set the story straighter, here is a run-down of which manufacturer makes which parts.

THE MAJOR MANUFACTURERS

NEC - NEC is an OEM manufacturer, so NEC brand monitors are made completely by NEC. NEC has its own plasma screen glass factory and uses its own processing boards and chips. NEC's glass and plasma manufacturing facilities were recently acquired by Pioneer - however it's marketing arm remains intact.

Panasonic - Panasonic owns its glass manufacturing facilities (Osaka, Japan) as well as engineering its own internal components.

Fujitsu - Fujitsu owns 50% of a plasma screen glass factory with Hitachi in Kyushu, Japan. Though Fujitsu buys some of the internal components (chipsets), it produces most of the internal component boards for its 42" plasma TVs. In 2006 Fujitsu stopped making any of their own panels - rebranded Hitachis now.

Pioneer - Pioneer owns its own plasma screen glass plant and produces most all boards and chips internalized in the plasma monitor. They make all of their own equipment, save for the 4030 and 5030 HD multimedia box, which is made by Sharp. The new 42"-up to 50" are made in the USA and/or mexico in a new plant(s) - the 60" is still made by NEC (as were all the older model elites)

Sony - Sony makes their own boards and chips but uses a variety of manufacturers for its plasma glass. - they change suppliers fairly often it appears, but most come from samsung .

Hitachi - Hitachi owns 50% of plasma screen factory with Fujitsu. Hitachi makes its own internal components.

Samsung - Large Korean manufacturer makes its own glass and internal components

LG - Another large Korean manufacturer making its own glass and internal components.


THE SECONDARY MANUFACTURERS

Toshiba - Toshiba rebadges Panasonic's screens and internal processing components. Always almost one generation behind.

Sharp - While Sharp makes some changes to internal components, their plasma TVs are essential repackaged Pioneers/NECs.

Runco - Runco's 50" plasma display comes from Pioneer and its 42" plasma display comes from NEC, though Runco may make some modifications to both displays.

Marantz - NEC is the OEM for Marantz's 42", 50", and 61" plasma monitors.

ViewSonic - The OEM of ViewSonic's 50" plasma screen is Pioneer. The OEM for its 42" plasma screen is more than likely a Hitachi.

Gateway - Gateway's 42" and 50" plasma TVs (both the regular and Ultra Bright models) are re-badged Sampo displays. For the 46" they use BenQ as the OEM.

Philips - Philips uses Fujitsu/ Hitachi glass screen and most internal components as well. However, Philips makes its own bezel with built in speakers.

[mol3000]

Best Buy will have a 32 inch LCD Westinghouse TV on sale for $479.00 on Black Friday. I was told by a Best Buy sales dude the Westinghouse LCD's are actually manufactured by Toshiba.

The Sony Bravia KDL-V32XBR1 price has dropped dramatically but for $2000.00 you can buy a Samsung 40 inch LCD for about the same price. :P

dam... my friend just bought that lcd westinghouse because they put it on sale for 699 and he couldnt wait...... it doesnt have to be a 32 but i didnt want a 40..... a 37 is good enough size .... and yes im gonna get the ps3 so its 1080p and i was gonna get this new upscaler thats out that upscales everything to 1080p.... so i may as well have the tv

[MJA]

I don't think the $479 Westinghouse 32" LCD(3213) is 1080p it said 720p HD built in
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=748301