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    When AVI is exported from Final Cut pro HD (and there is 3 choices) noone of them can be taken in to like ULead or Roxio. It says no video information, yet the Final Cut sees them. On the PC side Quicktime sees the AVI files from the Mac but not Ulead or Roxio.
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    Describe what the final cut AVI options are. There are hundreds of variations on AVI codec contents.

    Is this a HD output? HDV? Uncompressed?
    More detail please.
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    Originally Posted by edDV
    Describe what the final cut AVI options are. There are hundreds of variations on AVI codec contents.

    Is this a HD output? HDV? Uncompressed?
    More detail please.
    IN Final cut when you export as AVI select uncompressed then the three choices are thousands of colors, millions of colors, and +millions of colors. Any of those three are not readable on the PC side if I being them to Ulead or Roxio to burn to DVD as DVD-Video. THis is just regular SD video 720x480. I would post a screen shot but I don't know what you want me to post.
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    It's probably the fault of the Ulead and Roxio products.

    I work with both Mac & PC apps every day (FCP, AVID, Vegas, Premiere) and have never had this problem. In fact, when our Intranet is tied down with traffic, we sneakernet files on HD, CD/DVD, or (heaven forbid) Jaz discs between workstations--just this very way.

    FCP works with AVI via Quicktime, so whatever QT allows is what FCP can do.

    That means, AVI can have these Video codecs:

    Uncompressed (aka None)
    Cinepak
    DV
    DVCPro
    DVCPro50
    BMP

    (and Audio can be None, A-law, or mu-law)



    If you want it to be universally readable, you should limit yourself to using these codecs:

    Uncompressed (None)
    Cinepak
    DV

    w/Audio = None


    Since NOBODY wants Cinepak anymore, you should be using either None or DV.

    If you choose DV, it will be a Type2 AVI ("vids" + "auds" streams), not Type1 ("iavs" stream).

    Why this would be a problem to PC apps doesn't make sense.

    The "Thousands vs. Millions vs Millions+" thing is just a way to choose 16 vs 24 vs 32 bit color. You should choose Millions 99% of the time.

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    ULead handles uncompressed AVI inputs no problem.

    Variations might include YUYV, YUY2, YV12
    www.fourcc.org

    ULead consumer programs may reject 10 bit video if that is what you are doing.

    I'm surprized a "pro" product such as FCP uses dumbed down terminolgy like "Millions of Colors".

    What you want is something like 24bit (8 bit per component), YUV or 12 bit YV12. All are accepted by ULead.

    Or you can try DV format.
    FCP is very obscure about this too. You will find DV-AVI deep in the "Export with Quicktime Compression" menus of all places. I've spent too much time looking for that one.
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    Yeah, heaven forbid Apple should improve cross-platform interoperability! Since FCP uses QT as it's main export engine, what you see is QT's terminology (and you can see that they don't want to give too many options...). I find it aggravating that QT is still stuck with the "Artistic/Independent/Freelance/Producer/Prosumer" mentality.

    If it's 24bit uncompressed, it'll be RGB, not YUV, as QT doesn't (natively) give that as an option.

    As you can guess, some of my co-workers use and love FCP, but I don't (love it). Give me AVID, Vegas, Premiere, or even AfterEffects any day.

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    [Mac lovers note: I still like Macs & FCP etc., but I think they're missing lots of opportunities and markets]
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    Any pseudo "Pro" program that talks in "millions of colors" terminolgy should be stoned in the public square. Say what you mean with specific language. Apple claims to appeal to the "literate" so use the words. Apple knows how to transfer video to Premiere or Vegas or Ulead. They are just being obstructive. It should say "Export to PC" with options.

    "Artistic/Independent/Freelance/Producer/Prosumer" mentality may play to the word processing segment but video production requires multiple technical talents.

    Apple may be assuming a "sysop slave" with smarts is needed so the anoited can make millions off their "creativity" ........

    Oh stop me, I'm venting.

    Apple assumes the "creatives" are backed by the smart.
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