Virualdubmod downloading?

[videodirector]

I already downloaded virtualdubmod once, but it wouldnt let me re-open it after I restarted my computer the next day. I tried to redownload it and it won't work. I need virtualdubmodmpeg2 because I need to convert mpeg2's but it wont let me download it. When I try to download the zip it says compressed zip folder is invalid. I tried multiple times. Please give the solution to this (different download host) or a different (similiar) program.


..............thanks for your time...........

[redwudz]

You should be able to find VDM on the net in other locations than Sourceforge, though they have mirrors worldwide. I had no problems DLing it a few minutes ago from them. VDMod and VD MPG2 are two separate programs. I prefer VDM myself.

If you are having downloading problems, that sounds like you have a problem with your computer, maybe a proxy cutting off the downloads or antispyware or similar. Sourceforge can be strange at times. But if all else fails, try a Google search for other locations for downloads. VDM is available at quite a few locations.

[jagabo]

Both VirtualDubMod and VirtualDubMPEG2 can read MPEG2 files. Neither can write MPEG files.

[videodirector]

I found the problem. And got the program. But I have another question now. I want a high quality video without being a huge file size (AVI). I was told to put output video lagirith, or huffyyuv. Being new to VDM I have no idea what that is or how to set the program to output videos to that.

[jagabo]

The default behavior of VirtaulDubMod is to save the video as uncompressed RGB. You will need to download and install the HuffYUV or Lagarith codecs if you want to use them. Once you have done so, open your source video with VirtualDubMod and select Video -> Compression... Then select the codec you want. Press Configure if you want to change the codec's default settings -- the default is probably fine for what you're doing.

If all your doing is converting from MPEG to HuffYUV/Lagarith select Video -> Fast Recompress before saving. That will be a little faster and slightly better quality.

But neither of those codecs is suitable as a final product. They are lossless but will produce much larger files than your source MPEG. What are you looking to do with the video?

Oh, one other thing: if your source has MP2 or MP3 audio VirtualDubMod will uncompress it and save as uncompressed PCM. So the audio will grow in size. If you want to compress it select Streams -> Stream List, then right click on the audio stream and select Full Processing Mode. Right click on the stream again and select Compression... select a codec etc.

[videodirector]

Its supposed to be a music video. It's going to be seen by alot and it's expected to be high quality. But I would prefer not downloading (going through much more trouble) with all of these lagirith huffYUV formats. You are saying the default is fine. The data on the dvd is close to about 7 minutes long. Not too much data. So I doubt its going to be that huge. But I want it to be small as possible without losing quality. I converted one video to avi and it was 40 gb. Way too big for my pc. So would the default be suitable for what I'm doing? It is expected to be high quality but not SUPER high quality.

[guns1inger]

If you want relatively high quality and small file sizes, consider using AutoGK and Xvid instead. Just rip your video segment to your HDD, and let AutoGK do the hard work for you.

If you want it simple for others to download, consider mpeg1 for more universal playback across various platforms, or WMV for a good quality/size compromise for windows playback.

[videodirector]

Thanks for the suggestion but I think I want to stay with vdm. I am getting more familiar with it and lately my computer has been bombarded with new programs. I trust vdm and like it. Just having some questions. But I'll definitely consider the program. But first let me see if vdm can do what im asking for.

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...................I also realized that VDM doesn't rip the audio with the file. Why not? Did I possibly put a setting wrong? All it is, is video. No audio.

[jagabo]

VirtualDubMod's default is uncompressed RGB -- the 40 GB file you're getting. HuffYUV may get that down to 15 GB, Lagarith maybe 10 GB. I'm sure your MPEG file is much smaller than any of those so there's no point in using them.

If you want something smaller than your MPEG2 file you're going to have to resort to MPEG4 part 2 (Divx, Xvid, etc), MPEG4 part 10 (h.264, x.264), WMV9, or RM. Any of those can deliver quality nearly as good as your source if you allow sufficient bitrate.

But there are other issues. Is your source interlaced? That will cause problems with many codecs. If you want something that just about everyone will be able to view you should probably make WMV files with Windows Movie Maker (although I hate recommending it). Most people probably won't be able to view h.264 encoded video because they won't have a decoder and Windows Media Player will not automatically download one. Divx and Xvid will be a problem for a lot of people too.

VirtualDubMod should have read the audio too. Use GSpot to see what audio codec is in your source. I suspect it's AC3 in which chase you'll need an AC3 filter.

[videodirector]

Unfortunately yes. When I first open the file in VDM it says that it is parsing interleaved mpg2 file. And once again, unfortunately yes. The audio is and AC3 file. Are you sure the file is the uncompressed rbg file is what's giving me the 40 gb? Because I changed the file type to avi. I was told it was high quality. If you were in my situation (being that you want a high quality file thats relatively small, but it doesn't have to be smaller then the mpg2 file) what would you do, what programs would you use? You sound extremely experienced to me, so I'm willing to take all of your advice.

[guns1inger]

avi is a container format. The contents are defined by the compression applied to the audio and video components. VDM's default output for video is the avi container, but with no compression applied. As has been pointed out, you need to choose a codec to apply compression to the video and audio, and find the best compromise between size and quality. If you choose to use VDM, you will have to set all of this manually, and use trial error to get the best ratio for your needs. This is why I suggested AutoGK. It takes much of the guess work out of it for you, and makes find this compromise position that much easier.

[videodirector]

Ok. I am definitely willing to get rid of VDM now because of all of this confusion. Here are some more questions.......


--I read this program had a trojan virus. AutoGK, if you go and look at the comments.Is it safe?

--If I use autogk will it keep the high quality but yet small. Preferably 5-8 gb the most.

--Is this program difficult for new users to use?


Trust me I will definitely think of more questions after you answer me. Just questions for now.

[guns1inger]

5-8GB is a hell of lot. Who is going to download something that big ?

Anyway;

No, it does not have a trojan. It is used by many people here all the time

Again, 5 - 8 GB is huge. Why not just zip the DVD up and offer that for download ?

Define difficult ? With any program you need to learn a little about it to get the most from it. Don't expect to just run it and get 100% results from it.

[videodirector]

Its not going up for download. Im not sure where you got that idea from. It is just for show. That is why I don't care about it being that big.

Difficult meaning lots of technical things. Is everything default or do I have to change alot of settings.

Will this program output high quality? small size? I dont know how far I can stress this. That is all I care about. Nothing else.

[guns1inger]

How about you start again be describing exactly what type of video you have, and what you want to do with it ?

[redwudz]

If you want to use VDM, then the HuffyUV codec is a good choice of size VS quality. If you later convert to a different or higher compression format, it should give you minimal loss.

As mentioned, if this is for the Web, Mpeg-1 or WMV are good choices for compatibility.TMPGEnc encoder is free for MPEG-1 encodes and it's one of the better encoders for this format. VDM can frameserve your edited video directly to TMPGEnc without the need to create a edited version of the file. This saves hard drive space and time. For WMV, Window Movie Maker or Windows Media Encoder should do the trick.

I see now that uploading to the web is not something you need to do. HuffyUV is still a good choice for high quality. If you need smaller files, then Xvid is one option. Or the newer codecs like H264. It depends on what you want to do with the video and how you want to store it. There are a lot of options.

[videodirector]

Alright. Heres the story.


I have a file (vob that was processed through vob2mpg2). Not too big, 7 minutes long. But I will be doing big files in the near future. Ok. I am editing these videos into music videos. They will not be for download. Just for show. Because I have vegas 5 and it can't read theses files, I need to convert them. I am already aware that vegas should be able to read these files, but for some reason it wont and I dont want to mess with it. But I want to convert them to high quality files that are still small in size. Not sizes that take up half of my hard drive space. So that is how I ran into vdm. But vdm converts to files that are huge, if i want to keep the quality. That is why I am attempting your program.


................so to sum it all up, as I said before, I need a small file that is high quality that is comptible with vegas 5. (does not have to be smaller than the current file, 1.14 gb)

[guns1inger]

Download and install the lagarith codec. It is a lossless encoder, meaning that while it does compress the video, it does not discard information. It won't compress as well as an mpeg4 encoder, but it also won't butcher the image. I recently used lagarith as an intermediate storage codec for a project and had 2 hour 5 minutes come out at around 49GB.

Load your mpeg into virtualdubmod, then click on Save As.

At the bottom of the Save As dialogue is a Video section. Set the Video Mode to Fast Recompress. Next to Compression, click the Change button, which should now be active. Select Lagarith from the list of codecs, then click Configure. Make sure the Mode is set to YUY2. Click OK, then OK again. Enter a file name, and click Save. Once this is finished, you should be able to load the new avi file into Vegas and edit.

I suggest that as soon as you can afford to you invest in a second, large, HDD for your PC. If you intend to edit and quality is a concern, then you are going to need it.

[videodirector]

Thank you. The first 100% clear answer all day. I appreciate it. But I don't understand how to download it.

[kschang]

How to download what? VdubMod? Click on the link, then click on download. What's so hard about that?

[Scorpion King]

Alright. Heres the story.


I have a file (vob that was processed through vob2mpg2). Not too big, 7 minutes long. But I will be doing big files in the near future. Ok. I am editing these videos into music videos. They will not be for download. Just for show. Because I have vegas 5 and it can't read theses files, I need to convert them. I am already aware that vegas should be able to read these files, but for some reason it wont and I dont want to mess with it.

Maybe there is something wrong with the vob2mpg conversion why Vegas won't open them. Why not try a different method so you won't need to convert to avi with VDM.

Demultiplex the video stream and the audio stream you want from the vob file with Tmpgenc Plus - MPEG Tools. In the Browse for file window in Demulitplex you will need to change the type of files to *.* (all files) to see the vobs. Then just doubleclick the video stream (save it out) then the audio stream you want (save it out). Then click the Multiplex tab and add those two streams and save out the mpeg2 file. This should give you an mpeg2 file that Vegas should be able to open. I also think Vegas can simply open the streams(?), but I don't remember.

Just a thought.
Good luck.

[jimmalenko]

Thank you. The first 100% clear answer all day. I appreciate it. But I don't understand how to download it.

To be fair to those that have persisted with this thread and provided free advice, it's also the first time you've clearly spelled out what you want to do.

Help us to help you !

[jagabo]

Lagarith installer:
http://lags.leetcode.net/Lagarith_1310.zip

[videodirector]

Thanks to all of your suggestions. But the part I dont get about the download is when I open the file and extract all contents, when I click install on lagarith.inf nothing happens. The directions clearly state to do this. I'll try to be more clear this time. Tell me if im not being clear in any way at all and I will describe it in greater detail.

these are the things that show up in the zip after I extracted all of it's contents.

copying.

lagarith (setup info)

lagarith.dll

ReadMe.............which says this is how to setup.......Normal installation:
Right-click on lagarith.inf and select install to install the codec. If you
do not see an install option, make sure you extracted the files, and are using
the extracted lagarith.inf file. Which I did but nothing happens.

settings

Why doesn't anything show up when I click install on lagarith.inf?

[manono]

What happens when you then open VDubMod and go Video->Compression? Do you see Lagarith listed?

[videodirector]

yes thanks.

[jagabo]

Then Lagarith is installed.