new to editing

[tylerdurden]

hi, i need to put lots of footage on dvd-rw's (mpeg2 i think) to my hard drive then cut and paste from it to make a new file. I need to edit to the exact frame & i don't think i want it re-encoded. what programme should i download (preferebly freeware) which will do what i want. Also whats the difference between editing and authoring?

many thanks
tyler.

[redwudz]

It would depend on the codec used if you can do frame accurate editing without re-encoding. But you should be fine with the MPEG-2 codec. You just need an editor. You can try VideoReDo or MPEG-VCR, or for freeware, Cuttermaran. Lots more editors in 'Tools' to the left.

Authoring is the process of converting your MPEG video and audio into the DVD file structure, and adding menus and chapters. For the DVD structure, look to the upper left for 'WHAT IS' DVD. <<<<<<<

[steveryan]

Don't bother mate. Get your arse into gear and play TOCA 3 with me

[tylerdurden]

Thanks redwudz, i'll have a go with cuttermaran - i presume that'll let me do the authoring aswell.
on the homepage it says "you will need TMPGEnc 2.5 for smart rendering." & "Before cutting you hav to demux the video stream."
I have no idea what this means? could someone explain?
Also says "require NTFS to support files larger 2 GB" -don't know what NTFS is either?

-ta





can't say i'v played TOCA 3 before steveryan - is it on x-box?

[steveryan]

Whoops, sorry. I thought you were somebody else!

[Bjs]

Here is some info :

For cutting vob at exact frame : https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=291744

Grab batchdemux from dvdauthorgui site (demux's m2v from mpeg2 ... and audio)
If audio is stuffed (play it to check) , open mpeg in vdub and extract as wav (full processing , conversion at 48khz , 16bit , stereo)

Convert new wav to ac3 using besweet .

Use muxman or ifoedit to mux m2v with new ac3 ... dont forget to load your new celltimes.txt file .

Follow guide .

Use vobedit to demux via cell id (complete title set) to another folder .

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Tools required :

Ifoedit or muxman
Virtualdub
Batchdemux
Besweet
Vobedit

And notepad .

It's a free method , and exact .

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Joining vobs :

Rename first vob to vts_01_000
Rename next part to vts_01_001

When at 10th , it's vts_01_010

Place all renamed vobs in a folder .
Open first vob in vobedit .
File , join cellvob files .

Sellect new empty folder for new vob storage , and go .

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You will need ifo's for it :

Use vobedit to demux new title (seperate m2v and audio to new folder)

Use muxman to regenerate title from these streams ... and it can be burnt to media .

Ifoedit can do it , but requires checking stream info is correct , and using the "get vts sectors" to fix ifo info , then save both new ifo's , before it can be burnt .

[redwudz]

Cuttermaran needs to have the audio and video separated (Demuxed). I think they are suggesting using TMPGEnc to do that. You should be able to use the trial version of TMPGEnc for that. Look in 'File>MPEG Tools..' in the program. You also need to install Net Framework. Sorry, that's a few of the problems using a freeware editor. But it's a good editor once you get it all set up.

Once you have your videos edited, and hopefully in DVD compliant format, you need to author it to create a DVD that will play on a DVD player. For the DVD format and structure see 'WHAT IS' DVD to the upper on this page. >>>>>>

For freeware DVD authoring DVDAuthorgui or GUI for dvdauthor should work for you. The authoring process add menus and chapter and creates a VIDEO_TS to burn a compliant DVD.

[tylerdurden]

thanks for all the info guys, there's a lot more to this than i expected. I'm afraid some of your post went over my head Bjs, but i will get to grips with it eventually.
I'm a bit confused as to what constitutes a vob. If I have a dvd with 20 or more recordings on it from my stand alone dvd recorder, can I demux & edit that as 1 vob or do i have to do all separately? Also my dvd recorder creates playlists with thumbnails for each recording, -does this affect anything?

[edDV]

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Tools required :

Ifoedit or muxman
Virtualdub
Batchdemux
Besweet
Vobedit

And notepad .

And Notepad?

[ZippyP.]

Not free but MVW would make this easier. No need to demux/mux, frame accurate, encodes only as necessary, accepts VOB's (the DVD files with the audio and video) and can do transitions, titles and audio edits.

[usually_quiet]

Cuttermaran is my favorite freeware editor too, but in in its normal editing mode, you can start a cut only on I-frames and end only on I- or P-frames. You can cut on B-frames only if you allow re- encoding.

[Nelson37]

Yes, that is what TMPGenc is for, though I think you can use other encoders. But yes, I-frame only without re-encoding. Only re-encodes the edited GOP, SFAIK.

To the OP - you can muddle through, but you are not ready for this. I would strongly suggest you do some reading so as to understand the basic concepts involved, this will probably save you a lot of time, effort, and frustration. Check the Guides and Glossary.