One Movie Two Titles

[jmsrickland]

I used DVD Shrink to Re-Author two different sets of VOB files.

If I insert the two titles over to the left side pane where it now shows:

DVD
   Title 1
   Title 2

can I make one full movie with both of these titles? In other words when I play the final output compilation will the movie play without any interruption from title 1 through title 2?

[hech54]

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/120021.php

[jimmalenko]

can I make one full movie with both of these titles? In other words when I play the final output compilation will the movie play without any interruption from title 1 through title 2?

Depends on the DVD player, but I would think that there will be a pause. A better option may be to import each title into something like TMPGEnc DVD Author and place the items in the same track.

[jmsrickland]

Depends on the DVD player, but I would think that there will be a pause.

Well, I gave it a try. My DVD player (a Sony about 4 years old) played only the first title and then completely stopped. It went back to the Sony DVD screen (the screen you get before the DVD is recongnized by the player) and when I pushed on Play again it started with the first title again. I couldn't even jump to the second title. However, I put another DVD movie (one that I bought) which had multiple titles on it and that same DVD player played the entire movie. This tells me it is not the DVD player but either the way DVD Shrink joined the two titles together or it was the way the DVD burning program burned it onto the DVD disc. Have no way to determine which one.

[jimmalenko]

All you need to do is use something like PGCEdit and put a jump to title 2 command as a post command in title 1.

AFAIK some players will automatically play all titles in order without any extra authoring.

[jmsrickland]

hech54,

Thanks for the link. Looks like that just may be what I am looking for. I will try doing it that way.

[hech54]

hech54,

Thanks for the link. Looks like that just may be what I am looking for. I will try doing it that way.

Just follow it "to the letter"....it will work fine.
It looks complicated but it's really not that bad....hell...If I can do it....

[jmsrickland]

Well, it was just as easy as you said it was but let me tell you what I started out with and what I wound up with.

First, I had six VOB files that I wanted to 'join' into one DVD movie. Three of the VOB files were from a single movie and the other 3 VOB files were additional clips that I wanted to join to the original movie. The original movie (3 of the VOB files) is a 9-chapter movie. The other 3 clips are just very small video clips (1 minute each) to be added to the original movie.

Here is the contents of the original folder that I collected the VOB files in and renamed them according to the instruction and is the input to VBOEdit:

VTS_01_001.VOB 600KB <----------- a 1 minute video clip to be annexed at start
VTS_01_002.VOB 1,048,574KB <--- 1st VOB of original movie
VTS_01_003.VOB 1,048,574KB <--- 2nd VOB of original movie
VTS_01_004.VOB 731,590KB <----- 3rd VOB of original movie
VTS_01_005.VOB 600KB <------------a 1 minute video clip (same as 1st) to be annexed at end
VTS_01_006.VOB 600KB <----------- a 1 minute video clip (same as 1st) to be annexed at end

VTS_01_002 - 004 make up the original 9-Chapter movie
VTS_01_001, 005, and 006 are 1 minute clips each

OK. So I did exactly step by step following the info from that link. No, problem and when it was done I had a complete movies in another folder. The output of using VBOEdit and IFOEdit created the IFO, BUP, and the VOB files. The end results were as listed:

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB

OK, looks good. Now back at the instruction steps it stated the following:

And then rename all files to VTS_01_001.vob...VTS_01_002.vob...VTS_01_003.vob and so on. Each vob will be a separate chapter.

So, since I started out with 6 VOB files I figured that the completed movie would be a 6-Chapter movie (not the 9-Chapters that I started out with).

Now here is what I actuall got.

The entire completed movie was divided up into 46 Chapters! What on earth made those two programs decide it should have 46 Chapters?

Now, Chapter 1 is 10 seconds which is what I expected it to be. Chapters 2 through Chapters 43 are approx. 2 minutes each. But Chapters 44, 45, and 46 are a whooping 5000 seconds each!!!! That is not a typo. That is exactly what Video Studio says they are; 5000 seconds each (3 x 5000 = 15000 seconds = 250 minutes = 4Hrs 17minutes!). Unbelievable! Now either they are 5000 seconds each or Video Studio doesn't know what it is talking about.

Well, here is what I found out about those last three chapters. Each one of them is the entire movie! So, what I got, according to Video Studio, is this:

a 1 minute chapter followed by
42 chapters of the movie followed by
another chapter that is the entire movie all over again followed by
another chapter that is the entire movie all over again followed by
another chapter that is the entire movie all over again.

As of right now I can not be sure if the error comes out of VBO/IFO Edit or out of Video Studio.

The total length of the movie is 1 hour 23 minutes which seems about right based on the length of the original movie plus the 3 additional clips I added.

Personally, I think Video Studio is full of S..T!

But 46 Chapters! Why? How?

Now, here is second situation I do not understand. Using Video Studio, regardless of what it says about the last three chapters, has no problem reading in the VOB files from the folder where VBOEdit/IFOEdit saved them. But DVD Shrink will not read them. As a matter of fact when I tell DVD Shrink where the files are it ignores the folder just as if there was nothing in that folder. That has never happened before unless of course the folder was either empty or one or more of the files were invalid.

So, I burned the movie to a DVD-R. Here is how it played in my standalone DVD player:

Movie starts out with chapter 1: the 1 minute video clip (which is what I expected) plus the very begining of the movie logo (which should not have been part of chapter 1)

Then it pauses for about 5 seconds or so.

Then it goes into chapter 2 which is the continuation of the logo that it started in chapter 1.

From this point on the movie played from chapter to chapter to the end of movie.

Then it played the ending video clips that I had added to the end of the entire movie.

So, only the very begining of the DVD didn't play correctly.


There are three problems now which I do not understand:

1) Output of VBO/IFO Edit does not load correctly into Video Studio. Problem is how I stated above.

2) DVD Shrink can not load movie at all. Ignores the folder where the VOBs are.

3) Standalone DVD Player pauses at end of chapter-1 for approx. 5 seconds before it continues on with the remaining chapters through the end.

[jmsrickland]

OK, here's a message I finially got from DVD Shrink when I tried to open the VOB files again (didn't see it first time):

DVD Shrink encountered an error and connot continue

Invalid data in file I:\The Movie\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB

I'm sure that this has something to do with the problem that Video Studio had and maybe also has to do with why my standalone paused at end of chapter 1.

[hech54]

I had the "dozens" of chapter thing happen to me too once....never could figure out if it was my fault or something else's fault. I'd try to run your original material through Fixvts at some stage in the process....that handy little tool was not available back when I had my trouble with dozens of chapters while joining vob's.

[jmsrickland]

Well I tried that tiny program. It corrected the problem with DVD Shrink but it didn't correct the problem with the pause between chapter 1 and chapter 2. Don't understand this one. Once into chapter 2 it plays to the next chapter etc without any pauses but only at end chapter 1 does it pause for about 5 seconds then goes into chapter 2.

[jmsrickland]

Well after using that VOBEdit and IFOEdit to join the pieces the end results were bad. Every point in the final movie where I joined clips the movie was all screwed up. I don't know what the technical term would be but I call it digital breakup. In otherwords, at each 'joined' segment the entire screen was filed with a bunch of multicolored, square pixels all scattered accross the screen. I tried several times using those two programs and the results were always the same. I don't think they work.