Dual Layer Burning Problem

[Chris99]

Hi, I am having trouble burning DL discs. I wasted 4 Memorex DL discs.
I ripped a couple of dvds using the Ifo mode of DVD Decrypter. Then I tried to burning the video_ts using Recordnow 7.2 and Roxio Easy Media Creator 7.5. The burning process stopped 3/4 of the way with a error message. Using Roxio the message is "there is a transcoding error".
Using Recordnow the message is "Error: There was a problem writing to the disc." I think it is stopping at the same spot using either software.
Does anyone know if this a software problem, hardware problem, or type
of disc problem? Should I try using the read/write Iso method of DVD Drcrypter instead? I've read some posts recommending using DVD Decrypter when doing Dual Layer burning. Thanks.

[Denvers Dawgs]

Could be the media. Memorex isn't that great for DL media. Have you tried dvddecrypter ISO Read (rip to HDD) then ISO Write (Burn to dvd)?

[ebenton]

I have successfully burned Verbatim DL disks (the ones that Wal-Mart sells for $12.88 per 3-pack, last time I checked) on an LG GSA-4120B, NEC ND-3540A and a Pioneer DVR-109.
Memorex used to make pretty good single-layer blank DVDs back when 4X DVDs were state-of-the-art. But now they have farmed out their disk production to CMC or some other crappy media makers.

[bmiller]

Memorex are not that good.Been there done that.Try fujifilm or verbatim.Both work with no problem on my nec 3540.Try checking for firmware updates or modified firmware for your burner.A lot of people use dvd decrypter,iso read and iso write with good results.I just got some fuji's from best buy for $7.99 for a package of 3.I'm not sure about record now max,but check for an updated burning engine for the burning software to make sure it will work ok with you're burner.
Hang in there,you'll get it.

[dutchdummy]

Hi, I am having trouble burning DL discs. I wasted 4 Memorex DL discs.
I ripped a couple of dvds using the Ifo mode of DVD Decrypter. Then I tried to burning the video_ts using Recordnow 7.2 and Roxio Easy Media Creator 7.5. The burning process stopped 3/4 of the way with a error message. Using Roxio the message is "there is a transcoding error".
Using Recordnow the message is "Error: There was a problem writing to the disc." I think it is stopping at the same spot using either software.
Does anyone know if this a software problem, hardware problem, or type
of disc problem? Should I try using the read/write Iso method of DVD Drcrypter instead? I've read some posts recommending using DVD Decrypter when doing Dual Layer burning. Thanks.

Like the other posters, I also have had the most success burning dual layer by reading and writing with DVD Decrypter in ISO mode. I've also had more luck with Verbatim DL discs as opposed to Memorex.

[ebenton]

I forgot to mention, all of my DL DVD's that were successfully burned onto Verbatim disks were done with DVD Shrink and Nero 6 (launched by DVD Shrink).

[greymalkin]

yep i have had no burning problems with verbatim..i'm just having issues with the stupid layer break....copytoDVD put a layer break in my dvd which worked fine on my dvd player but when i took it to a couple other places it did a couple other weird things...well later on in the movie there was a couple frames i forgot to trim so i decided to do it again but do it "right" this time. So I created a chapter somewhere in the "safe" layer break zone and used RecordNow 7.3 which is supposed to be the best one..popped it in my dvd player and it hangs for a second at the layer break whereas copytodvd did not...now i've only got one more from my 3 pack to try and straighten this problem out!

[oldfart13]

I have a new method that I use for Dual Layer +Rs that has been flawless for me considering the number of botched ones I did with my old method and DVD Decryptor. Kudos to Car.Mike at Afterdawn for this method. I also used Fuji (RicohJapan) +R DL:

"If you are doing a D/L disk you do not need Nero. Rip the disk as per the instructions I gave ( see below) and set up DVDDecrypter and AnyDVD ( 21 day free trial - so you might as well try it. If you like it then you can buy it)

Instead of writing using DVDDecrypter I want you to use the newer burn engine by the same author IMGBurn : http://www.imgburn.com/

Instructions Rip w/ DVDDecrypter and AnyDVD- Burn w/ Imgburn:

1.In DVDDecrypter go to Tools> setings>General> untick Check for Structure protection

2.Now go to I/O and tick ELBYCDIO-Elaborate Bytes

3.Enable AnyDVD

4.Now insert Movie( foxes head turns red) and go to Mode in DVDD>Iso read> click the decrypt button. It will create 2 files- image and a .mds file

5.After ripping turn AnyDVD off ( right click taskbar foxes head and click on exit)

6.Open ImgBurn> Tools> Drive> Change Book Type>DVD-ROM

7. Now go to Mode> write> find the .mds file you created and click on it and the hit the write button

I have found DVDDecrypter or Imgburn find the layer break better than Shrink or Nero but if you are happy w/ your method then by all means use it."

[Edmund Blackadder]

So I created a chapter somewhere in the "safe" layer break zone and used RecordNow 7.3 which is supposed to be the best one..popped it in my dvd player and it hangs for a second at the layer break whereas copytodvd did not...now i've only got one more from my 3 pack to try and straighten this problem out!

If it only hangs for a second and then continues to play that's actually a good thing. If it goes completely smooth then that is a potential trouble for many other DVD players. A couple of my newer DVD players don't care about the layer break, and if it's missing or done improperly they go completely smooth through the physical layer change. But once I put that DL DVD to other players - they simply stop at the physical layer change. On the other hand with properly burned DL DVD the layer break has a split second pause on all my players (just like with the pressed commercial DL discs) and continue successfully past that point. The slight pause is a very good thing indeed. I've talked about that extensively in my other posts.

[greymalkin]

edmund...

thanks for the encouragement ...i think i'll burn the 3rd and final copy using copytoDVD for use on my player since it plays right on through with no pause and keep the other "good" copy as backup.

yeah the first one i did with copytoDVD hung for about 10 seconds on my dad's toshiba which is the pickiest dvd player i've ever come across..i'm surprised it played at all...then my in-laws dvd player choked on the layer break and skipped to the next chapter! :P

[Chris99]

Thanks to everyone who replied!
I'm up to 9 useless coasters. I've tried different media. Besides Memorex, I've used Fuji discs with the same results. I've used the latest version of Dvd Decrypter. I managed to burn one dual layer disc with
Recordnow but the movie stopped midway and froze. I've decided to quit for a while until the discs are cheaper before experimenting again.
Oldfart13, I will try your method later. It looks like it is a more complicated way of burning discs.

[oldfart13]

Perhaps...but I have a full set of the Ultimate Collection Twilight Zone episodes burned to +DLs and no coasters, so it works for me. I hope it will work for you as well...

[ROF]

Sounds like your firmware doesn't support these discs. Are you using the latest firmware for your drive?

[lordsmurf]

Besides Memorex, I've used Fuji discs with the same results. .

RITEK (Memorex) media sucks. RICOH (Fuji) discs so-so.
Try Verbatim (MKM), which are the best discs.

[Chris99]

I am wondering if there is a problem with my burner. I am using Hp DVD640e but I have the latest firmware for it. I read somewhere the quality of HP products is not that high. Actually this is my 3rd HP DVD640e burner. The first one stopped working (no power) one month after I bought it. HP sent me another one which failed after two days because the discs won't eject. My third burner seems ok because it can burn single layer and Lightscribe discs but not DL discs. I believe the burner is made by Lite-On. Anyone else have problems with HP burners, especially external ones?

[bmiller]

You are making too many coasters using tried and true methods.The only common denominator is your burner.If you want to continue with the dual layer angle,you would be wise to try another burner.They are not all that expensive anymore.Flash with the latest manufacturer or confirmed modified firmware from cdfreaks.

[HeadHunter2003]

I had the same problem with shrink and nero. Got to the menu screen fine, then the DVD hung up on me. I tried old farts way, and havent had any problems since burning to dual layer. I've only used Verbatim duals though.

[garryheather]

I might have missed the point here - why are you ripping in IFO mode ?

If all you want to do is make a copy, just use the ISO mode to both read and write within DVD Decrypter. Alternatively, if you must use another program to burn the disc then use File mode instead. Then you can burn those files onto another disc and it should be OK so long as your burning program knows where the layer break should be as they don't always get it right just yet.

If you're making any changes to the content of the disc before attempting to re-write it to a disc, then this is likely to be an authoring problem.

[Frunobulax]

If it only hangs for a second and then continues to play that's actually a good thing. If it goes completely smooth then that is a potential trouble for many other DVD players. A couple of my newer DVD players don't care about the layer break, and if it's missing or done improperly they go completely smooth through the physical layer change. But once I put that DL DVD to other players - they simply stop at the physical layer change. On the other hand with properly burned DL DVD the layer break has a split second pause on all my players (just like with the pressed commercial DL discs) and continue successfully past that point. The slight pause is a very good thing indeed. I've talked about that extensively in my other posts.

I can vouch for what Edmund is saying about the split-second layer change being better for more players. For instance, I tried a dual layer I'd burned with a completely smooth layer change on a portable DVD player, and the player got hung up at the layer change. So, I burned the same DVD again, but with the slight delay at the layer change, and the portable player handled it with no problem.

[jax818]

I think the media is the problem too. I've had no problems using Verbatim. I think Verbatim is the best brand in the market right now for dual layer media. Picked up a 6 pack for $17.99 at www.burnsmart.com with a $10 rebate. Pretty good deal.[/url]