How to convert .txt subtitles to .sup on the fly

[fafastrungen]

Hi, I have the next graph:

DVD Navigator.VideoOUT-->VideoIN.HPlus
DVD Navigator.AudioOUT-->AudioIN.HPlus
DVD Navigator.SubtitOUT-->SubtitIN.HPlus

the thing is that I want to read subtitles from text files and the output connect it to the SubtitIN pin of the HPlus.
I want to do this becouse I rent movies that has not spanish subtitles, so I download them from internet in text format (.str, .sub, etc) but I dont have any DShow filter that read a text subtitle an convert it.
So, can I do this ?

What I want looks like pretty much like this:

DVD Navigator.VideoOUT-->VideoIN.HPlus
DVD Navigator.AudioOUT-->AudioIN.HPlus
"Subtitle Filter".SubtitOUT-->SubtitIN.HPlus

The "Subtitle Filter" must:

1. Read the text file.
2. Convert it to the same format of the Hplus subtitle input pin.

I know that I can demux movie, add subtitles and remux movie, this is what I'm doing, but it's very tedious and slow, if I could get a DShow filter that reads from text files, my need will be covered.

[Krispy Kritter]

When playing the movie, the movie is only going to access subtitles that it has access to. Since it cannot see/access external subtitle files, you won't get any input without following the process that you are already performing.

[fafastrungen]

When playing the movie, the movie is only going to access subtitles that it has access to. Since it cannot see/access external subtitle files, you won't get any input without following the process that you are already performing.

Forget about subtitles in the DVD, I dont want to use DVD subtitles, I want to read subtitles from an external file and send it to the H+.
I'm doing this task but I'm not sending to H+, I use an app called PDVDSubtitle, you run PowerDVD and efeter this app, yo select the subtitles you want to show and the app overlay subtitles over the PowerDVD image.
This is a good solution when I want to use the VGA TV-output, but if I want to use the H+ TV-output I can't send sutitles to it. So I need some filter that convert it on the fly and send it to H+.

[kschang]

Doesn't VOBSub/DirectVobSub do that?

[fafastrungen]

Doesn't VOBSub/DirectVobSub do that?

as far as I know, VobSub rips subtitles from VOB files, but not from text file.

[kschang]

But... According to description VobSub DOES do it...

DirectShow subtitle filter for all software video players.

[fafastrungen]

But... According to description VobSub DOES do it...

DirectShow subtitle filter for all software video players.

Look at the picture, Graph 1 is what VobSub does and Graph 2 is what I want.

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[kschang]

Okay, and you must do this LIVE?

And dumb question... WHY must everything link into that... box?

[fafastrungen]

Okay, and you must do this LIVE?

Yes.

And dumb question... WHY must everything link into that... box?

Becouse I rent DVD without spanish subtitles and I want to view subtitles at the same time I watch the movie.

[kschang]

But... uh... Wouldn't linking VobSub AFTER the box do the same thing?

EDIT: I see what your "problem" is now. The answer to your question is "no, it's not possible". Here's the reason: what you're asking is for a single file to contain subtitles for every thing DVD Navigator could point to. And that simply isn't going to happen. No program will be able to automatically figure out which parts have subtitles and which parts don't, and which subtitles go where.

However, I got sorta close. I used DVD Decryptor (I used it before for my AutoGK sessions) on a DVD I had. So I now have unprotected VOBs. I then opened the first VOB in GraphEdt, and it fed straight to MPEG2 splitter, then to decoder and render respectively for video and audio. I then inserted VobSub (DirectVobSub to be exact) between the decoder and the renderer (or, since I use FFDShow, I can have it load the subtitle by itself without adding the graph object). I have the proper SRTs (I subrip'ed them for this test) and I was able to get a better quality subtitles this way. It does stop at end of VOB file, but that's the way it is.

I imagine that if you merge all the VOBs into one gigantic file it'll sorta solve that problem, but it's not as... "convenient" as you demand.

[fafastrungen]

It's possible, if you take a look to msDVB program you could see at this program does what I want.
This program create a filter in realtime and does what I say, but the problem is that it only works with DVB broadcast.

[kschang]

But that's possible because DVB sends teletext as subtitle. It's a one-way passive medium. DVD is not. If you convert DVD into a one-way passive medium by combining all the VOBs together and strip out the menu, then you end up with what I was talking about.

[fafastrungen]

But that's possible because DVB sends teletext as subtitle. It's a one-way passive medium. DVD is not. If you convert DVD into a one-way passive medium by combining all the VOBs together and strip out the menu, then you end up with what I was talking about.

Passive medium has nothing to do, what msDVB does is to convert text lines into bitmaps and send it to Subpicture Input Pin of a MPEG decoder, nothing more.
No matter of subtitles lines comes from file, memory or whatever, the important thing is the process of converting subtitles lines to bitmaps, wich I dont know.
There is a plugin for the Eugene's player that does exactly what I need, but I couldnt find it.

[kschang]

Well, for what it's worth, VobSub also takes .SUB files, and it sounds like you do want to to load from an external file any way?

Sorry, no help here.