DONT buy from supermediastore.com

[Yankee666666]

This may be old news to some people, but I just had a bad experience with them. I bought 200 TY03 discs from them for like $55, but when i received them they would only write at 1X. I called them and since they claimed i wasnt shipped the wrong item, but rather it was defective that I would not be reimbursed to ship them back for replacement. They would pay to ship another 200 to me, HOW NICE! I yelled and argued that its their fault and no way to do business, but was told they go through this everyday and they were not a large enough company to pay for the shipping both ways when there are problems. I have ordered from them many times before, but NEVER again.

[canadateck]

Charge back.

This is why I stoped buying DVDR's and a few other things on line.

Look at this.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=246387&highlight=tiger

[Yankee666666]

what do u mean by "Charge back"?

[canadateck]

Call up your Credit card Company,and dispute the Charge.

[ROF]

At least they aren't charging you a restocking fee as most companies would. That's the price you pay for buying something you can't see. I only buy expensive equipment online because if there is a problem at least the savings justifies the cost. You're better off just buying media locally when it's on sale. At least you could then just walk back to the store. However, CompUSA charges a restocking fee.

[chas0039]

Without more information I am going out on a limb but I would guess the problem lies in your firmware not recognizing the newer media and defaulting to a slow speed.

[gadgetguy]

...but I would guess the problem lies in your firmware not recognizing the newer media and defaulting to a slow speed

I had the same thought.

[Yankee666666]

hmmmm i never considered that possibility. Ive never had problems with media, but i guess this TY03 stuff is real new because i dont even see it listed here under media in 4X which is what mine was supposed to be. I will try that when I get home and see what happens. Looks like the latest firmware for my memorex dual format is from 2/19/2004 so I hope thats not too old to help.

[lordsmurf]

I think it's your fault, not theirs. The discs are likely NOT defective. Your burner is outdated.

TYG03 is 16x media, by the way.

[Yankee666666]

dvdidentifier shows the media code as TY03 and it said 4X when I bought them. No way they are selling 200 16X TY03's for $55. As far as what dvdidentifier shows for the speed it says something like unidentified under the Manufacturer. Then it shows 1X under that so im not sure which is the correct reading for the speed.

[chas0039]

Try again with CDSpeed and see what that reports as the media code. As far as any source I can see, there is no "TY03" media code. Generally, the 4X TY media going for that price is TYG01 which should be no problem for most firmware other than BenQ 1640.

What specifically is your burner. Memorex was usually made by Liteon but you should have other numbers in the identifier and others here may have more info.

Also what were you burning with that reported 1X. Most burners will not even go that slowly.

[Yankee666666]

Memorex 8412AJ is the drive and I already tried and it DID burn at 1X

[chas0039]

Maybe you misunderstood. What software told you you were burning at 1X? And when you look at the media info tab in CDSpeed what burn speeds are listed.

Your drive should be a first generation Liteon 811, information here:

http://codeguys.rpc1.org/dvdrw_overview.html

I would have to say it is time to upgrade. This drive was only supported for a short time and the 812 which superceded it was not that great of a burner (I have one for scanning only).

Now that drives are $40 it is time.

[Tom81]

Return shipping charges...?

Let me ask you question..... What retailer in the world , if you bought defective merchandise from them ...would pay for the gasoline and car wear mileage for you to return that item to the store? (not to mention your time).
Same principle , think about it.
Legally, you are liable for return shipping charges on mail order items.

[Yankee666666]

Try again with CDSpeed and see what that reports as the media code. As far as any source I can see, there is no "TY03" media code. Generally, the 4X TY media going for that price is TYG01 which should be no problem for most firmware other than BenQ 1640.

What specifically is your burner. Memorex was usually made by Liteon but you should have other numbers in the identifier and others here may have more info.

Also what were you burning with that reported 1X. Most burners will not even go that slowly.

I burned with Nero at 1X and I ran Cdspeed and it tested at 1X. It also gave media code as TY03. I have bought other valuedisc media similar to this and burned it with no problem. I believe the media code on those was TY01.

[Yankee666666]

update: i updated the firmware from HWS4 to HWS7 and now it will burn at 2X. Is there a newer firmware out for my drive? I cant find one.

[bnbhoha]

Only online stores i wil buy from are:

Rima
newegg.
amazon

Avoid:
supermediastore
meritline
shop4tech

[ungamunga]

TY03 doesn't exist AFAIK. TYG03 is 16x Taiyo Yuden DVD-R media. I got some real TYG03 from blankmedia.ca and it was a heck of a lot more than US$55 for 200 at the time. Good 16x media is still pretty expensive. I'm not sure what their current prices are (website's down at the moment for some reason).

Real TYG03 is excellent stuff if you have a recent burner but older burners often won't recognize it properly. My old burner (LG 4160) thought they were x4 disks whereas my new burner (LG 4167) loves them. You might have a situation where your old burner doesn't recognize the disks or you might simply have bogus media.

[lordsmurf]

What brand was this media?
Give a link to the page.

[Yankee666666]

dvdidentifier and cdspeed both show it to be TY03. heres the link


http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-4x-dvd-r-media-silver-matte-spindles-100.html

I got 2 of these

[lordsmurf]

Those discs are TYG01 or TYG02.
There is no "TY03" code that I've ever heard of.
I think your burner is confused.

[chas0039]

Given that these discs have been TYG01 as well as TYG02, it is possible that these are TYG03 even though it is unlikely. That would explain why your drive is having problems as it certainly has not ID for those discs in the firmware. You have the most current firmware..

What is the serial number in the dye section of the center of the disc? It will be on the dye side and should start with two letters, I believe.

These are not fakes, by the way. The problem is a very old burner with firmware that will not recognize newer discs.

[Yankee666666]

What is the serial number in the dye section of the center of the disc? It will be on the dye side and should start with two letters, I believe.

GH000124

These are not fakes, by the way. The problem is a very old burner with firmware that will not recognize newer discs.[/quote]

Can u help me as to which firmware to put on my Memorex 8412AJ? I saw a webpage that lists other drives in the same generation I could use.
http://codeguys.rpc1.org/dvdrw_overview.html
I put one flash HW07 on it that now lets it read at 2X.

[chas0039]

I believe you got TYG03 16X media. This will never work correctly on your 811 as it is too slow and too old.

These are not cheap discs and you got them for a very low price; this is the first I have seen of TYG03 being sold as "value". Take one more look at the stamped serial in the clear plastic center of the hub ring and see if it has been stamped over a second time.

My advice is to keep these discs and get a new Liteon 1693 from Newegg.com.

They are currently selling for $37 delivered.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106990

You will need to upgrade sooner or later as it will not be long before you cannot get good media as old as your drive.

[Yankee666666]

These are not cheap discs and you got them for a very low price; this is the first I have seen of TYG03 being sold as "value". Take one more look at the stamped serial in the clear plastic center of the hub ring and see if it has been stamped over a second time.
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Its very hard to read the clear center. I part i think says EK5 and then opposite that on other side of clear hub a bunch of numbers 9k525A401819GK and stamped on TOP of that is EK5. Also on the actual purple part of the disc opposite the #s i gave u in my last post it say 0211

[lordsmurf]

I can confirm TYG03 is being sold in the Value Line media. Somebody I know just got 200 of them.

TYG03 16x media. He said his burner doesn't work too well with them at 16x, but his burner is also on outdated firmware.

[Yankee666666]

i flashed my burner with the newest and that was a mistake because now i cant burn any disks that were working before. I went back to the old flash and same result. Windows can see the disc, dvddecrypt can rip dvds, but Nero wont recognize DVDs or DVDRW. It says insert disc even though theres one in there.

[coraview]

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php

log on this site and update your drive in order to work them well! TYG03 is Taiyo Yauden new code, your drive might not able to read that code yet, so you have to update the firmware.

One thing for sure, it is not "real Taiyo Yauden media you bought" because Taiyo Yauden will never burn their them like that by using 16x code and selling them as 4x. Supermediastore is pulling you a fast one! In short of it, "FAKE", but if it works after you update the firmware, then it should be ok as long as you don't mind with fake code. I bought Sonic, Matrix, and others media from www.shop4tech.com & www.meritline.com that has fake codes, and quality of it are perfect. Never complaint about it.

8)

[Yankee666666]

I already tried that and it let me burn at 2X instead of 1X but now the dvd drive wont read any DVDRW's at all. They work in windows but I cant burn any. I went back to the old flash and same result. I just wish I could get the drive back to the way it was so I could at least burn some dvdrw.

[lordsmurf]

One thing for sure, it is not "real Taiyo Yauden media you bought" because Taiyo Yauden will never burn their them like that by using 16x code and selling them as 4x. Supermediastore is pulling you a fast one! In short of it, "FAKE", but if it works after you update the firmware, then it should be ok as long as you don't mind with fake code.

You're wrong.

TY has a very active "Value Line" of media right now, that can be TYG01, TYG02, or TYG03. It's all legitimate media. It's not fake. It's all being sold as 4x only because of the likelihood that 4x TYG01 can be had.

Supermediastore is not only not selling fake TY, they are currently doing their best to educate customers on how to spot fake TY:
http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-how-to-tell-fake-or-real.html
I really respect what they've been doing there.

Please do not start false rumors.