Verbatim dvd+R pearl white discs poblems?

[Qeef]

Hi you all,

I bought a new stack of dvd media and having a lot of problems with them.
My movie`s keep freezing every couple of minutes.
I burn with dvddycryptor using an imagefile.
Anybody having the same problems with this media?

The media code is: CMC MAG E01

The complete code is:

00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 23 2E 0F .............#..
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 47 00 45 .......CMC MAG.E
00000020 30 31 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 38 6A 02 88 67 15 15 01.8#T7..8j..g..
00000030 0B 0B 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................

or maybe it`s my dvd player?
normally I use TDK `s and haven`t had a problem yet.

I hope you guy`s can help me out.

Tnxs,

Qeef.

[Sabro]

I've heard of alot of people having the same problems as you with this media code.

You might want to check and see if your burner has a firmware update, and if that doesn't solve the problem try burning at a slower speed.

Sabro

[Bodysurf]

Hi you all,

I bought a new stack of dvd media and having a lot of problems with them.
My movie`s keep freezing every couple of minutes.
I burn with dvddycryptor using an imagefile.
Anybody having the same problems with this media?

The media code is: CMC MAG

CMC is generally considered garbage media. That is your problem in all likelihood.

[lordsmurf]

CMC = Crappy Media Company

[kicko]

i had some of these that would freeze up so i burned a 2x and they played back perfect, i think it depends on your player too.

[Gen-An]

CMC MAG E01 can be quite good; it depends on the burner. Obviously Qeef's burner isn't very compatible with them (or he got a particularly bad batch). Qeef, it'd help if you mentioned what burner you were using and what firmware version.

[Denvers Dawgs]

Here is a little more info/chat about Verbatim going with Ritek
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=151989

I have only used Verbatim 8x MCC/MKM-DL and TY for everyone of my dvds, because of their quality. Now this may make it hard to order dvds online, for fear of not knowing what I will be getting for quality media? Hopefully the Ritek(verbatims) won't make it into the US market???

[Bodysurf]

Here is a little more info/chat about Verbatim going with Ritek
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=151989

I have only used Verbatim 8x MCC/MKM-DL and TY for everyone of my dvds, because of their quality. Now this may make it hard to order dvds online, for fear of not knowing what I will be getting for quality media? Hopefully the Ritek(verbatims) won't make it into the US market???

1. I see really little or no reason to buy 8X "Verbatim" recordable DVD media in 10/2005. The 16X ones are only about $2.00 more per 100 spindle.

2. I wonder if these are actually Verbatim outsourcing some of their media (like the outsource their 52X Silver InkJet Printable CDRs to ProDisc or like they used to use CMC for some of their older recordable DVD media) or this is a case of counterfeiting.

I guess you just got to be a little careful with the media that you buy. If I were ordering online, you may want to make sure you are ordering Verbatim DataLifePLUS media (e.g., If you go to NewEgg and search for "DataLifePlus", you should be good to go.).

[Denvers Dawgs]

I haven't used 16x media yet. I do have a benq1620, but I still buy the 8x verbatim. Anyone use the 16x verbatims? I was just worried that they weren't that realiable that burn speed. I could be wrong. I should go buy one or two just to check.

[Bodysurf]

I haven't used 16x media yet. I do have a benq1620, but I still buy the 8x verbatim. Anyone use the 16x verbatims?

I've used the Verbatim 16X InkJet Printable DVD-Rs that they sell at Sam's Club and they burn perfectly on my Pioneer DVR-A09XLB. I've bought a couple of spindles of the DVD+Rs also, but I haven't gotten around to using them yet. The media code for these DVD-Rs are "MCC 03RG20":

** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 85 0d 0e 88 9a 80 00 .@....R.........
0010 : 03 4d 43 43 20 30 33 00 04 52 47 32 30 20 20 00 .MCC 03..RG20 .
0020 : 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0b 14 87 78 90 00 .............x..
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 08 13 0d 11 0c 08 00 ................
0040 : 09 95 07 0e 0b 78 88 00 0a a0 00 20 00 20 10 00 .....x..... . ..
0050 : 0b 06 1a 17 86 67 85 00 0c 99 ab 3a 83 20 32 00 .....g.....:. 2.
0060 : 0d 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 ..........

** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Control Data Zone'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'CDZ'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 10h - Physical Format Information Of Control Data Zone
0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %........&......

FWIW, Sam's Club also sells Verbatim 8X Silver Topped DVD-Rs too with the following media code. I haven't had as much luck with these. I would get occasional coasters often (maybe 10-20%) with these if I tried to burn them at 8X (never a problem at 4X). I just gave about 50 of these to my brother-in-law who has a 4X only burner:


** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 85 0d 10 88 9a 80 00 .@....R.........
0010 : 03 4d 43 43 20 30 32 00 04 52 47 32 30 20 20 00 .MCC 02..RG20 .
0020 : 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0d 13 87 78 80 00 .............x..
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 05 15 0d 10 0b 0a 00 ................
0040 : 09 98 08 0f 0b 78 88 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 .....x..........
0050 : 0b 07 19 15 a7 88 75 00 0c 99 bc aa a2 20 22 00 ......u...... ".
0060 : 0d 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 ..........

** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Control Data Zone'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'CDZ'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 10h - Physical Format Information Of Control Data Zone
0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %........&......

Could have been just a bad batch, a fluke, or these just don't work as well with my Pioneer DVR-A09XLB.

Like I said, the 16X InkJet Printable Verbatim DVD-Rs have been perfect. Over 40 and not one coaster.

[Gen-An]

Here is a little more info/chat about Verbatim going with Ritek
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=151989

I have only used Verbatim 8x MCC/MKM-DL and TY for everyone of my dvds, because of their quality. Now this may make it hard to order dvds online, for fear of not knowing what I will be getting for quality media? Hopefully the Ritek(verbatims) won't make it into the US market???

1. I see really little or no reason to buy 8X "Verbatim" recordable DVD media in 10/2005. The 16X ones are only about $2.00 more per 100 spindle.

2. I wonder if these are actually Verbatim outsourcing some of their media (like the outsource their 52X Silver InkJet Printable CDRs to ProDisc or like they used to use CMC for some of their older recordable DVD media) or this is a case of counterfeiting.

I guess you just got to be a little careful with the media that you buy. If I were ordering online, you may want to make sure you are ordering Verbatim DataLifePLUS media (e.g., If you go to NewEgg and search for "DataLifePlus", you should be good to go.).

The DataLife/DataLifePlus distinctions haven't been used in the US for Verbatim's retail products for quite some time, though they still use it for the bulk media available online. As for the Pearl White stuff showing up in Europe, it's a case of outsourcing. Verbatim is no longer producing 8x media, but apparently there is enough demand for it in Europe so that they had to resort to supplying CMC and Ritek. I'm not sure why people don't just use the 16x MCC media though.

[Bodysurf]

The DataLife/DataLifePlus distinctions haven't been used in the US for Verbatim's retail products for quite some time, though they still use it for the bulk media available online.

My thoughts here were if you ordered the DataLifePlus (rather than the DataLife), you be, more or less, guaranteed to be getting MCC recordable DVD media. In hindsight, I'm not sure how actually true this may be nowadays, BUT Verbatim still makes a distinction between DataLife and DataLifePlus on their website.

I do know in the case of CDR media, I would insist on DataLifePlus (versus regular DataLife) because DataLifePlus should be guaranteed to be the SuperAZO dye while the regular DataLife CDR media can be CMC or ProDisc.

I'm not sure why people don't just use the 16x MCC media though.

The only reason I can think of is people who own 8X drives and want to save a $0.02 per blank.

However, even if I didn't own a 16X DVD burner, in 10/2005 the only Verbatim DVDR I would buy would be the 16X White InkJet Printable Verbatims because they have been flawless for me.

[Gen-An]

I have a spindle of the 16x IJP DVD+Rs from Sam's, but they're only okay (not too good at 16x on my Plextor burners). I've had better luck with the branded matte-silver 16x Verbatims. I haven't seen DLP media in quite some time, aside from a few leftovers; most of the Verbatim retail media (CD or DVD) simply says "Verbatim" with no DataLife OR DataLifePlus label. The 8x discs don't even mention Azo dye on the packaging, though they use it. I've noticed that the 16x retail packaging has brought the "Advanced Azo" label back.

[Bodysurf]

I have a spindle of the 16x IJP DVD+Rs from Sam's, but they're only okay (not too good at 16x on my Plextor burners).

Got a couple spindles here, but I haven't cracked them open yet. I primarily use DVD-R is why.

I haven't seen DLP media in quite some time, aside from a few leftovers

The last I've actually seen them in person were in boxes. I have a box of 10 8X Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+Rs and another box of 20 16X DVD+R Verbatim DataLifePlus DVD+Rs they sold at Sam's Club a few months ago. I got these primarily for testing purposes. I don't think they sell these there anymore.

most of the Verbatim retail media (CD or DVD) simply says "Verbatim" with no DataLife OR DataLifePlus label.

Same experience here which is weird because when I surf through all the different media that Verbatim mentions on their webpage they still use that distinction (DataLife vs DataLifePlus) regularly.

(Aside: They have so many different types of media on Verbatim's webpage: DataLife/DataLifePlus -- White InkJet/Silver InkJet/Thermal/Silkscreen/Lightscribe, etc. I wonder if there's a place that stocks all these different types?)

But, just like you, at the retail level all I see Verbatim now, which makes it tougher if Verbatim decides to switch media formulations, how is one to know? Also, it is much harder to find/know SuperAZO based Verbatim CDR media lately.

I realize for the vast majority of consumers, it makes no difference. They don't know the difference between MCC and CMC. And they are really naive and uninformed when it comes to good vs bad media. They just buy whatever is cheap. And I'm sure that is a lot of it too -- people figure "Why buy this Verbatim when this Memorex is $5.00 cheaper?" It's mainly people who frequent places like here that know the difference between good and crap media.

I've just been spoiled because Sam's Club is so close to me and the media there has been HQ MCC Verbatim DVDRs for an inexpensive price. I went into an OfficeDepot a few days ago and the same 100 count spindle of Verbatim 16X DVD-Rs was over twice the price ($89.00).