Menu in VCD without spliting the mpg file

[NickGardel]

I want to create a VCD of a music concert. With Nero I can burn the 530 Mb mpg file (encode with TMPGenc) and create a menu. But If I split the file in multiple track (regarding the songs of the concert) there is a little pause between two tracks between the reading in my Pioneer Standalone DVD player. Do you have any solution ? Is there a software in which we can put some index directly in the file without spliting it and create a menu ?

[aldus4]

If you don't mind a few millisecond pause then you can use Nero. Just cut the tracks in TMPGEnc* and insert them into Nero as you usually would. Once they have been "checked" by Nero click on them and set the pause to 0 secs.

If you gaps are still too noticeable for you, you then should be using VCDImager or I-Author.

*(If using TMPGEnc to cut the mpeg, use the last number of the stop marker for the next first - that will guarantee a pretty good cut/merge later.)

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[NickGardel]

I've tried to split the file with TMPG and create a BIN/CUE file with VCDImagerGUI. I've burned it with Fireburner, but the little pause is still here when I read the CDR in my Pioneer 525 DVD player. Is every else have a idea ?

[Psycho_Dad_Rules]

Hi,

I know that what you are suggesting can be done for sure !! I have some REAL original VCD, and these contain only 1 data/mpg track, but when played, you can still select chapters of the movie. So it can surely be done.
I've been working with some DVD authoring software some time ago which had the ability to do this with DVD's, but no support for VCD in that program.
Maybe VideoPack or I-Author are able, only i never found it in VideoPack and i never used I-Author.

If anyone knows of a way to create a real indexed vcd (chapters in 1 mpg stream) please let me/us know.

Greetz,

pSyChO dAd

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[NickGardel]

Sure it can be done, but nobody seems to know how. I'm searching I-Author to try it, but can't find it for the moment...

[adam]

vcdimager can do it but I've never used it. The commercial version of I-Author can do it but almost no one has it...the warez copy has vcd support disabled entirely.

VideoPack 4.0 does chaptering. Do a forum search on it, I have literally written walkthru's for the process about 10 times.

[griffin224]

Also in addition to adam's post. I do believe that frameserving will allow you to set up chapters, with the addition of chapters you could fast forward or rewind to the song you want, but if you where to listen straight through thier would be no pause as there is when you break up the file.

[digvid]

This is relatively easy to do with VCDImager 0.7.6 or above. Please see the offical "Bleeding Edge" VCDImager web site for examples of how to do this. The site is: http://www.hvrlab.org/~hvr/vcdimager/. If you search for "chapters" and "vcdimager" on this forum, you will also find numerous threads about this and examples.

- digvid

[NickGardel]

I've tried to use Videopack 4.0 like the great description of Adam. But when it compile the VCD, an error appear : can't create entry n°xxx. I've modified the mpg file with MPEGsequenceMaker, but this software says that my MPEG (repaired with TMPG)is not a standard MPEG1. Then, what is a true-real-standard MPEG !

I have a dream : some great coder made a real easy-to-use GUI to put index in mpg file (how many index do you want ? where ?) and transform it in VCD ! Unrealisable dream ?

[adam]

mpeg sequence maker didnt accept the mpg? I thought it was pretty leniant about mpeg streams...I've fed it both mpeg1 and mpeg2 streams with various standard and non-standard settings.

You did demultiplex first and only run the video through the program right? If you haven't already then read the instructions that come with it, it explains it all.

[NickGardel]

Many thanks Adam. It works !!!!!

I can go forward in the file just pressing my remote control. But why I cannot go review ? And why I can't use simply the number buttons ? Some other tips is needed ?

Thanks a lot again

[Killer Joe]

Hi Nick,
To go back, just press the right mouse button on the videopack, select desktop and disable "Show menu routings". Now you can manually select next and preview for each chapter.

[NickGardel]

thanks killing Joe. I will become a real pro of Videopack



Now next and previous button of the remote works. How to do that with the numbered buttons ?

[adam]

# buttons can only be used on menu's not video tracks. So you have two options...Make a chapter selection menu and select your chapters from there. of course you can still skip to another chapter with the next and previous buttons once you start playback.

Or what you can do is make menu's instead of video tracks. Just make the menu and for its source load the mpg your using. Now you can use the # keys to jump to any other track but you will lose the next and previous buttons function.

[NickGardel]

thanks again

Damned !I've to make a choice. It will be the next/previous button...

[RFontenot]

Nick,

Dreams do come true. You can do this using the Philips Video CD 2.0 Toolkit. It's uses an easy to use drag and drop GUI for authoring VCDs. I've posted several guides on how to use it.

For what you want to do, you need to create a chaptermark file which indicates where in the video you want your chapters. You do NOT have to split up your MPEG file to do this. The chaptermarks are encoded when you compile your project.

If you want use the Previous/Next buttons to skip back and forth, you'll need to create a sequence which lists all of the chaptermarks one after another.

If you want to use the # keys, you just drag and drop the chaptermarks to the + key on the menu creator. The first drop is #1, the second is #2, etc.

You can mix both approaches so you have both options available when you play your video.

The Toolkit works only for creating VCDs. If you want to create XVCD and SVCD projects with menus and PBC, then you'll need to use VCDImager or some other product.

The Toolkit demands your input files be strictly compliant. I've posted guides which cover how to make compliant menus using PowerPoint, still images using JPEGS, CD-Audio files, and VCD files using either TMPGEnc or ATI MMC 7.1.

Toolkit is a commercial authoring tool from Philips, the same company that authored the VCD 2.0 White Book standard. It's the best program available for authoring VCDs with PBC, and best of all, it's free.

Search this forum for the word Toolkit to find all of my guides.

RF



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[Killer Joe]

RFontenot,

The only problem that i found on Videopack is that if i play the video starting from chapter 1 to chapter 5 without interruptions and then press the next button instead to go to chapter 6 it goes to chapter 2, did you get it? So this program "Toolkit" has this same problem or no?

thanks

[Killer Joe]

RFontenot,

The only problem that i found on Videopack is that if i play the video starting from chapter 1 to chapter 5 without interruptions and then press the next button instead to go to chapter 6 it goes to chapter 2, did you get it? So this program "Toolkit" has this same problem or no?

thanks

[RFontenot]

Killer,

I found out that if you create a single sequence with multiple chaptermarks, as I described earlier, you'll have the same problem in Toolkit that you described having with VideoPack.

A better method is to create multiple sequences, each with one chaptermark, set each sequence to end at the point where the next chaptermark is set, then nest the sequences together.

BTW, a chaptermark is what Toolkit calls an entrypoint.

RF