Help with reauthoring RAY extended version

[tedkunich]

I bought the RAY dvd and am pissed with the crappy authoring they did with the extended release of the movie - they cut the 16:9 anamorphic and intermix the added scenes with 4:3 letterbox video. I appears that the added scenes are in another title and my DVD player and reciever barf when it changes between the two with a long audio dropout and flicker when changing from 16:9 and 4:3.

What I would like to do is recut the new scenes in and re-encode the extended release and burn to a new disc. I have been able to find the start/stop frames for the new material, but is there a way to find out where cut these scenes in and out based on the IFO's (i.e how does the DVD player know how to do this?)

I plan on using AVISynth if that makes a difference.

Thanks

T

[Rich86]

I believe you will find all the modified, extended and deleted scenes all together on the extras disc. I also suggest you view them this way. I found the movie much more enjoyable in the theatrical version (without all those annoying delays, changes in quality, etc. 1 scene even repeats a number of times to show you the multiple versions they were screwing around with - who needs that in the middle of a movie? ugh!).
I think this is a terrific film - but I found the best viewing pleasure to be the theatrical version - followed by looking at the "extras" separately. The dynamic branching nonsense they are trying to use is not very effective to say the least.

[tedkunich]

I believe you will find all the modified, extended and deleted scenes all together on the extras disc. I also suggest you view them this way. I found the movie much more enjoyable in the theatrical version (without all those annoying delays, changes in quality, etc. 1 scene even repeats a number of times to show you the multiple versions they were screwing around with - who needs that in the middle of a movie? ugh!).
I think this is a terrific film - but I found the best viewing pleasure to be the theatrical version - followed by looking at the "extras" separately. The dynamic branching nonsense they are trying to use is not very effective to say the least.

Some of the added scenes I thought added to the movie... i.e. the bus scene were they removed the segregation sign once the bus reached Chicago....

That said, I agree, watching the DVD as it is authored sucks for watching the extended edition. I want to splice everything together and burn it as on continuous movie....

What I would like to find out is where the information that indicates the branching points are located in the IFO files... I can "fix" repeats and other such bad edits once I know all the main splice points.

T

[guns1inger]

Simplest way to so this

1. Rip the whole disk with DVD Decrypter
2. Load up the disk in DVD Shrink and go to reuathor mode
3. Find the longest version of the main title and drag it to the lefthand window
4. From here you can either shrink the output and burn it, or change the compression setting to No Compression, then use something like DVD Rebuilder on the output.

You should not have to go through all this effort of trying to find the edit points. The structure will be controlled through chapter playlists, where it will simply swap out chapters depending on the version of the film you select. Shrink generally shows this as two titles, and makes the disk look like if it 12 or 13GB in size (impossible, of course).

[tedkunich]

Simplest way to so this

1. Rip the whole disk with DVD Decrypter
2. Load up the disk in DVD Shrink and go to reuathor mode
3. Find the longest version of the main title and drag it to the lefthand window
4. From here you can either shrink the output and burn it, or change the compression setting to No Compression, then use something like DVD Rebuilder on the output.

You should not have to go through all this effort of trying to find the edit points. The structure will be controlled through chapter playlists, where it will simply swap out chapters depending on the version of the film you select. Shrink generally shows this as two titles, and makes the disk look like if it 12 or 13GB in size (impossible, of course).

Shrink was the first thing I tried... it does not work. The extras are in different title sets and the aspect ratios are different between the main movie and extra scenes. There is no other option than to splice the footage together and make the nessesary A/R corrections in the process.