Help: Best prog to copy to dual layered disc

[joms]

What would be the best software that would give me high-end video quality in backing up dvd movies and such given that im going to use a DVD writter that is capable of dual layered writting (im still looking into the best writter to buy... any suggestions here too?)

ive read that programs such as shrink/dvdrebuilder dvd decrypter and such are good but are they usefull ONLY when you are trying to burn into a single layered dvd? would they still be the best program if i have a dual layered dvd already?

id rather like to have a very straightforward program that can just make me insert the disc and press GO.

(free programs wouldnt hurt either)

[steve2713]

dvd decrypter

[doppletwo]

DVD Decrypter

Clean and easy and free.

[joms]

is it a point and click thing? im kinda a newbie on this....

[steve2713]

ISO read->ISO write. I think you'll survive...

[jimmalenko]

Another DVDDecrypter vote here ...

http://members.dodo.net.au/~jimmalenko/ISODVDDecrypterV3220.htm
http://members.dodo.net.au/~jimmalenko/BurnDVDDecrypterV3220.htm

All you need

[guns1inger]

DVD Decrypter *SNAP*

[waheed]

Burning Software: DVD Decrypter
DVD Writer: Poineer or NEC

[jtoolman2000]

I 2nd eberyone else

DVD Decrypter

Iso Read ? Iso Write

If you have a DVD rom drive as well as a DVD/RW DL drive, it just a matter of having your blank ready to go in the 2nd drive. Decryter will rip the complete dvd into an ISO and turn right around and burn that iso to your blank. You just have to tell Decrypter what letter your source and burner are inititally and the next time you backup a disk, it will remember. Obviously, you will not change a thing from the original so it should keep the same exact layer break. The only thing is that, and others can correct me if I am totally wrong, I thought that DL burnable didks held a bit less data than a commercial pressed disk. So theoretically one can have an original pressed disk that might actually by a bit bigger than the DL -r+r disk. You would need to either remove somthing or run it through DVD Shrink a tiny bit. for the majority ( 99.9% ) you would be perfectly fine.

[CogoSWSDS]

I use DVD Decrypter to rip and if ripping a dual layer disk, then I use DVDShrink to shrink to fit it on a single layer disk. Nero to burn.

I've only done a couple disks but so far these tools work very well.

CogoSWSDS

[robertazimmerman]

I guess you didn't read the request for info...... He's looking for ripping software that will allow him to write to dual-layered discs.

I use DVD Decrypter to rip and if ripping a dual layer disk, then I use DVDShrink to shrink to fit it on a single layer disk. Nero to burn.

I've only done a couple disks but so far these tools work very well.

CogoSWSDS

[jtoolman2000]

If you go the Decrypter route to rip and then to shrink ( when needed ) , why not shrink to an ISO and burn with the decryoter burn engine. You can set it within Shrink. It is a lot more reliable than burning with Nero.

I omit Decryppter as a ripper unless I really need to with a problem disk. I rip/shrink to an ISO in DVDSHrink = One step / then I burn the ISO in decryter. Total, two steps. Results are always EXCELLENT.

DOn;t forget to set the MAX target as a custom size 100/200 MBs under Max to insure that you miss the edges of the disk where the dye is most unstable.

This will prevent , in most cases any stutters, misses and other playback defect you may get if you max out the burn.

[MaxBlack]

What would be the best software that would give me high-end video quality in backing up dvd movies...id rather like to have a very straightforward program that can just make me insert the disc and press GO...

DVD Decrypter will allow you to back-up DL discs "as-is" i.e. you just rip to ISO then burn again with DVD Decrypter.

If you need/want to use DVD Shrink (or other) to "adjust" your backup (e.g. skip all that junk at the beginning of Universal studio DVDs) then you need to get RecordNow 7.3 ($30). You can then use DVD Shrink to make a VIDEO_TS folder, and RN7.3 will make a DL DVD with a proper layer break (that will play in most/all set-top DVD players). Nero and Decrypter are suspect (at best) in doing this.

I have a Pioneer DVR-109 and can recommend it highly.

[Ward River]

Backups are 1:1 copies. If you've changed it (read: altering, adding or removing any content) then you have at that point created something different and new, and your creation is now the master, not a backup. Backups are what we like to call our unauthorized copies of copyrighted works here at VideoHelp.com, even though most times they are not truly backups. DVD5 to DVDR is a backup. DVD9 to DVDR isn't, as there is altering (read: removing, re-encoding, etc) involved in the process and the finished DVD is not the same content contained on the original.

If "backing up" or "copying" is your only concern and you already have a double layer burner, then DVD Decrypter is all the software you will need.

Period.

As for writer suggestions: I've had great results with Sony and LiteOn drives.

HTH

[Cinemagic]

Since this seems like a vote, I'll cast mine for..........

DVD Decrypter !!!

[jtoolman2000]

I have acomment! If you to a 1:1 rip in DVDdecrypter to and iso and burn to DL dvd right back with decrypter, the layer break should be identical in fact, all should be identical, right? BUT,,, if you start to muck up in DVDshrink, removing this ommiting that, when you save that back to ISO and burn to DL dvd in DVD decrypter,,,what happens to the origina layer break/switch point and will you DVD player happily skip right over it so you don't even notice or will it hang on it.

Does editing out part chage anything seriously enough to matter in the end?

[mn072065]

DOn;t forget to set the MAX target as a custom size 100/200 MBs under Max to insure that you miss the edges of the disk where the dye is most unstable.

This will prevent , in most cases any stutters, misses and other playback defect you may get if you max out the burn.

Can someone explain where I make those changes, please. Thanks

[guns1inger]

If you screw with the content there is a good chance the layer break will have to shift. The first layer burned must be at least as big, preferably bigger, than the second layer. Not an issue for a 1:1, but if you change the ratio of data between layers, you will shift the break. You are better off simply letting decrypter remove the PUOs while it's ripping so you can skip the previews/warnings etc manually.

[mn072065]

Sorry, I still do not understand where in Decrypter I can make this change. Thanks


"set the MAX target as a custom size 100/200 MBs under Max to insure that you miss the edges of the disk where the dye is most unstable.

This will prevent , in most cases any stutters, misses and other playback defect you may get if you max out the burn".

[jimmalenko]

... probably because it's in DVDShrink ...

Go to Edit > Preferences




Change the Target size from DVD-5 to Custom (in the dropdown box), then enter whatever size you want. 4300MB is about 182MB from the outer edge of the disc. Personally I don't agree with this recommendation, and I think it's a workaround for crap media at best, but ... YMMV

[mn072065]

thanks - no wonder I couldn't find it. I always leave DVDShrink as default, the way I downloaded it. Thanks - Is it better to leave it this way, the default way? Thanks again

[Matt D]

Yeah, I agree. I burn straight to the edge, it's never an issue, and it shouldn't be with good discs.

Personally I don't agree with this recommendation, and I think it's a workaround for crap media at best, but ... YMMV

[bbanderic]

DVD Decrypter, backed up 20 DL discs, no problems with layer switch, came out perfect!

[Shocker Milwaukee]

Does editing out part chage anything seriously enough to matter in the end?

I modified my Dual Layer backups of the Star Wars Trilogy without any problems. Using DVDShrink, I replaced the FBI warning with the movie poster for each disc. This was the only modification performed. I let DVD Decrypter set the layer break & all my backups play flawlessly.