theres any dvd-recorder that let we make our own menus?

[v1p0n3]

Hello, so far all my home dvd's i did using a canopus advc-1394 and then author everything with a pc software.
well i wanted to buy a dvd-recorder to keep converting my tapes to dvd but i wanted to keep making my own menus. theres any dvd-recorder that let me make my own menus? using my own jpgs and add text..

Thanks

[Epicurus8a]

I seem to recall reading that the next generation of Pioneer DVD recorders will have a computer interface that will allow you to create menus on your computer. Then the menu will be moved to the DVD recorder (via the interface) and burned. I'm not sure where I saw this or when it will be available, but it might be worth a search or two.

Good Luck!

[mats.hogberg]

Seems like you'd be better off with a Hauppage capture card. Take DVD recorders for what they are - hi tech VCR.

/Mats

[DaveS]

someone will make something like this, but maybe not exactly what you want..govideo released a dvd recorder which as a first step creates scene selection menus from your scene changes (licensing technology created by yes video)...so it's not custom menus, but was a good idea for home movie transfers..but, the reviews were not good in terms of product quality. if you're looking to do more complex menus and dvd structures, you may be better off all on a PC

[v1p0n3]

Thank you for your replys.
i'll stay with my card and dvd-writer for now then.,
But it would be great a dvd-recorder that could let us do decent menus. nothing very complex but good looking

"Seems like you'd be better off with a Hauppage capture card"

I'm happy wiht my canopus card

[leebo]

There is a $4000 Pioneer DVD recorder that will do this. I assume you're not interested.

[v1p0n3]

ahah. yeah i'm not definetly interested

[DaveS]

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_204147818_38303,00.html

pretty cool...

hmm...no s-video input...maybe I'm out...

[mats.hogberg]

pretty cool...

Totally un-cool IMO - what could I do with this beast, that a computer at 1/2 the price can't do 10 times as good?

/Mats

[sync]

I use a DVD recorder as a capture device because it's quick and doesn't tie up the computer. Then I author on the computer with my own menus.

[mats.hogberg]

I use a DVD recorder as a capture device because it's quick and doesn't tie up the computer. Then I author on the computer with my own menus.

Thing is, the computer isn't "tied up" when capturing, and you don't have to rip the recorded DVD to the computer to reauthor. It might be quick, but capturing with the computer is quicker, if you want to author with the computer.

/Mats

[DaveS]

I use a DVD recorder as a capture device because it's quick and doesn't tie up the computer. Then I author on the computer with my own menus.

same here unless the source really needs cleanup work or if I will be editing..

[DaveS]

pretty cool...

Totally un-cool IMO - what could I do with this beast, that a computer at 1/2 the price can't do 10 times as good?

/Mats

you can't feel like you're on star trek ...I didn't actually read the specs, just looked at the picture...I'd be interested to know the answer to your question though

[DaveS]

I use a DVD recorder as a capture device because it's quick and doesn't tie up the computer. Then I author on the computer with my own menus.

Thing is, the computer isn't "tied up" when capturing, and you don't have to rip the recorded DVD to the computer to reauthor. It might be quick, but capturing with the computer is quicker, if you want to author with the computer.

/Mats

yeah, it's the encoding that takes time (assuming an avi cap)...at least that how I was reading it...capture straight to mpeg on the PC is somethinig different...for me, I'm pretty happy w/ the quality of the recorder encoding and cleanup, and I can author / burn on the PC while the recorder is encoding another source (tape)

[v1p0n3]

I use a DVD recorder as a capture device because it's quick and doesn't tie up the computer. Then I author on the computer with my own menus.

how you do that?
you record to a dvd-rw on the dvd-recorder to then re-author on the computer? it doesn't mean re-enconding the video?
Let me know how is this process so i can think is it's worth

[sync]

I use a DVD recorder as a capture device because it's quick and doesn't tie up the computer. Then I author on the computer with my own menus.

how you do that?
you record to a dvd-rw on the dvd-recorder to then re-author on the computer? it doesn't mean re-enconding the video?
Let me know how is this process so i can think is it's worth

That's right. No re-encoding. I use DVD-Lab to author. You can even do frame accurate cutting in Womble Video Wizard without re-encoding.

[v1p0n3]

ah that's nice.
i have to think about that.
i have over 100 concerts in vhs that i want to convert to dvd. i wanted all them with menus and chapters, so far i have allready done 8 shows and i allready gave up adding chapter for each song.. it requires to many time. now i have to think if i'll REALLY make menus for each show. it don't requires many time, i also use dvd-lab like u, the only diference is that i use a capture card (canopus advc-1394) and then i watermark and encode with CCE. About 3/4 hours of encoding for each concert..

[sync]

ah that's nice.
i have to think about that.
i have over 100 concerts in vhs that i want to convert to dvd. i wanted all them with menus and chapters, so far i have allready done 8 shows and i allready gave up adding chapter for each song.. it requires to many time. now i have to think if i'll REALLY make menus for each show. it don't requires many time, i also use dvd-lab like u, the only diference is that i use a capture card (canopus advc-1394) and then i watermark and encode with CCE. About 3/4 hours of encoding for each concert..

I used to do all that also. A lot of people on this forum have switched from capturing/encoding to using a DVD recorder.

[sync]

i watermark

Do you watermark the whole video or just part of it? With Video Wizard you can watermark a few seconds of the video and it will only re-encode those few seconds.

[v1p0n3]

i only watermark like 10 seconds on +1hour of video.

How can i do that? Sounds very interesting.

[sync]

i only watermark like 10 seconds on +1hour of video.

How can i do that? Sounds very interesting.

It's similar to most editors. There's a track for the video and another track where you can put the watermark. You specify how long to display it and you can have it fade in/out. The software is smart enough to only re-encode the portion that contains the watermark.

There's a trial you can download.

[v1p0n3]

but whats the prog name? it's with dvd-lab that it's possible to do that?

[sync]

It's Womble MPEG Video Wizard

[DaveS]

ah that's nice.
i have to think about that.
i have over 100 concerts in vhs that i want to convert to dvd. i wanted all them with menus and chapters, so far i have allready done 8 shows and i allready gave up adding chapter for each song.. it requires to many time. now i have to think if i'll REALLY make menus for each show. it don't requires many time, i also use dvd-lab like u, the only diference is that i use a capture card (canopus advc-1394) and then i watermark and encode with CCE. About 3/4 hours of encoding for each concert..

yes w/ a recorder, you would

- capture & encode onto RW media w/ the recorder
- rip the dvd onto your PC hard drive (I use dvd lab for that also) to obtain the mpeg / audio streams
- optional: cutting / joining (/watermarking) - womble
- author & burn - dvdlab

[sync]

ah that's nice.
i have to think about that.
i have over 100 concerts in vhs that i want to convert to dvd. i wanted all them with menus and chapters, so far i have allready done 8 shows and i allready gave up adding chapter for each song.. it requires to many time. now i have to think if i'll REALLY make menus for each show. it don't requires many time, i also use dvd-lab like u, the only diference is that i use a capture card (canopus advc-1394) and then i watermark and encode with CCE. About 3/4 hours of encoding for each concert..

yes w/ a recorder, you would

- capture & encode onto RW media w/ the recorder
- rip the dvd onto your PC hard drive (I use dvd lab for that also) to obtain the mpeg / audio streams
- optional: cutting / joining (/watermarking)
- author & burn

If you do cutting / joining (/watermarking) then you'll want to do that before demuxing.

I like to use Decrypter for ripping because you can rip by title.

I found DVD-Lab to be quite slow at demuxing and I use MPEG Video Wizard for that also.

[mats.hogberg]

yeah, it's the encoding that takes time (assuming an avi cap)...at least that how I was reading it...capture straight to mpeg on the PC is somethinig different...

Yes, sure is! Just capture, load the mpg in TDA, done. Hauppage PVR250 rocks. (So will 150, when they sort the audio prob out...)

/Mats

[DaveS]

If you do cutting / joining (/watermarking) then you'll want to do that before demuxing.

yup

I like to use Decrypter for ripping because you can rip by title.

I found DVD-Lab to be quite slow at demuxing and I use MPEG Video Wizard for that also.

yeah, dvd lab is slow demuxing ... but the thing I like is that when I'm done, I get one mpeg file from the vob files (well the mpeg and the audio), e.g. dvdlab joins the mpegs files....that way I just drop the mpeg into dvd lab, set my chapters & menus, etc. then prepare the files for burning...only issue is slower rip and demux then muxing them back at the end..and if you cut/join there's more mux then demux again...any suggestions to cut out some steps? I've got dvd lab, decrypter is free and have womble (both versions..I kind of got used to the weird interface of MVW)

[sync]

yeah, dvd lab is slow demuxing ... but the thing I like is that when I'm done, I get one mpeg file from the vob files (well the mpeg and the audio), e.g. dvdlab joins the mpegs files....that way I just drop the mpeg into dvd lab, set my chapters & menus, etc. then prepare the files for burning...only issue is slower rip and demux then muxing them back at the end..and if you cut/join there's more mux then demux again...any suggestions to cut out some steps? I've got dvd lab, decrypter is free and have womble (both versions..I kind of got used to the weird interface of MVW)

The dvds I author usually contain several titles. The dvd-rw from the recorder usually contains several titles. So I don't want to rip to one large vob and I don't want 1GB vobs either. Here's the method I use.

1. Rip each title using decrypter in ifo mode. In Tools - Settings - IFO Mode: set File Splitting to None.

If you have several titles and you do want one vob, use file mode and set File Splitting to None as above.

2. If necessary, edit each title in MVW and export.

3. Demux each title in MVW.

4. Author.

It may sound like a lot of work, but MVW is very fast at exporting and demuxing.

[DaveS]

yeah, dvd lab is slow demuxing ... but the thing I like is that when I'm done, I get one mpeg file from the vob files (well the mpeg and the audio), e.g. dvdlab joins the mpegs files....that way I just drop the mpeg into dvd lab, set my chapters & menus, etc. then prepare the files for burning...only issue is slower rip and demux then muxing them back at the end..and if you cut/join there's more mux then demux again...any suggestions to cut out some steps? I've got dvd lab, decrypter is free and have womble (both versions..I kind of got used to the weird interface of MVW)

The dvds I author usually contain several titles. The dvd-rw from the recorder usually contains several titles. So I don't want to rip to one large vob and I don't want 1GB vobs either. Here's the method I use.

1. Rip each title using decrypter in ifo mode. In Tools - Settings - IFO Mode: set File Splitting to None.

If you have several titles and you do want one vob, use file mode and set File Splitting to None as above.

2. If necessary, edit each title in MVW and export.

3. Demux each title in MVW.

4. Author.

It may sound like a lot of work, but MVW is very fast at exporting and demuxing.

thanks I'll give it a shot...MVW is fast muxing and export...this may work a little quicker...dvd-lab is easier b/c it's all in one tool, but those rips take a while...thanks again

[sync]

I just realized that Decrypter can demux and it is very fast.