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    Just curious. I really like the DTS sound, but it takes so much space. Does anyone try to keep it when using shrink or whatever program? Thanks!

    Also, what compression level do you think is optimal before seeing loss of quality? I've got stuff at 60% that looks great, and the other night I backed up Basic Instinct at 90% and it wasn't too hot.
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  2. suppose the quality is how its filmed really.
    as for DTS,its far better than dolby's efforts,and i now mostly use dvd9 for backups
    but yeh most times on the discs that have it,ill rip a dolby disc and a DTS disc if the compression has reduced the quality too much.
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    I alway's keep DTS because i also think it sound's better but i always leave off the other soundtracks to make more room for the video & all my system's are set up for digital sound so i don't have to worry about not having anything but the DTS audio.
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    Originally Posted by Noahtuck
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    I alway's keep DTS because i also think it sound's better but i always leave off the other soundtracks to make more room for the video & all my system's are set up for digital sound so i don't have to worry about not having anything but the DTS audio.
    Dolby soundtrack is needed if the movie is to meet the dvd specifications. Without Dolby, the DVD Specifications will not be met reducing player compatibility. Thats not to say it wont play audio in a dvd player.

    Generally, DTS is supposed to be better than Dolby (AC3), but in my opinion, i cant really tell the difference, so i just keep AC3...less compression for the movie as AC3 takes less space than DTS.
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    Thanks for the input. I appreciate it very much. What about the compression part of my question? Thanks!!
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    Originally Posted by waheed
    Originally Posted by Noahtuck
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    I alway's keep DTS because i also think it sound's better but i always leave off the other soundtracks to make more room for the video & all my system's are set up for digital sound so i don't have to worry about not having anything but the DTS audio.
    Dolby soundtrack is needed if the movie is to meet the dvd specifications. Without Dolby, the DVD Specifications will not be met reducing player compatibility. Thats not to say it wont play audio in a dvd player.

    Generally, DTS is supposed to be better than Dolby (AC3), but in my opinion, i cant really tell the difference, so i just keep AC3...less compression for the movie as AC3 takes less space than DTS.


    The only compatibility issue i have ever had is when trying to play through a system that is not hooked up with a fibre optic or coaxial digital cable.

    And as far as the diff. in sound, every dvd i have ever played that had both 5.1 & DTS switching between the 2 audio tracks i can hear a major diff.
    I was wondering if it was me and i asked quite a few friends & they said the same thing.

    As far as the 90% and it did'nt look to hot ?? that is not much compression!! Just what RottenFoxBreath stated, did you try it again with another disc ??
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    always keep
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    Jonathan,

    When 90% is bad, 100% is also bad :P
    This is true.

    60% can be fine if the source is very good.
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    Always keep it as long as the compression level is acceptable. Since unfortunately it is one of the parts that takes up the most space it is one of the next to go after unwanted previews, extras, director and actor comments.
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    Hello,

    Originally Posted by waheed
    Generally, DTS is supposed to be better than Dolby (AC3), but in my opinion, i cant really tell the difference, so i just keep AC3...less compression for the movie as AC3 takes less space than DTS.
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    I LOVE DTS - always get in when I can. It is just so much bolder than DOLBY.

    Don't get me wrong - DOLBY only movies can pack quite a punch - take STAR WARS and INDIANA JONES as an example. They are DOLBY EX only at 448 kbs. I don't have an ex receiver just a 80 watt per channel dolby/dts standard. BUT it kicks out quite nicely on the DOLBY only tracks.

    I keep DTS when it's a movie I really care about. If it's just a comedy or a drama thats not big on sound I pitch it.

    I also dump the extras unless its something fun or like one or two trailers occasionally.

    I only have standard tv so I don't really care about the dvd compression. In fact I don't really know what I compress at. I just reauthor it so it fits the disc - I'll make my own menus if I want it fancy.

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  11. I never keep the DTS track, as without a home theater setup that can decode DTS (which I don't have) I don't see much point.

    If anything, I'd rather keep the director's commentary since it's interesting (on at least some discs anyway) and actually adds something to the disc. DTS may sound a little better, but the size is just ridiculous considering the benefits. I also try to keep at least a few extras, at minimum the original theatrical trailer (doesn't take up much room). Deleted scenes almost always go -- it's nearly always obvious they were deleted for a reason .
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    waheed is almost right. To meet DVD Specs, the first audio track should be either AC3 or LPCM. Some older players may not like a disk with DTS only. Having said that, I owned, for many years, an early Pioneer player which was always happy playing disks with only DTS audio.
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    I always keep DTS and drop 5.1 given the choice.
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    in the early days quality would suffer if you kept the DTS but I don't think it's as great an effect now if you want to keep it
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    Ok, two answers:

    1. If you really like DTS keep it. I currently only have a 3-speaker setup (front left right and center) so it hardly matters for me, and thus I tend to keep the DD and director's comments, same amount of space used.

    2. Compression level is tricky, especially when we're talking about transcoding. As you've noted, some movies go down to 60% just fine. Others look lousy at 90%. It really depends on the movie, bitrate, etc.!
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