Playing a DVD RAM disc recorded as a standard DVD

[pippas]

If I burn a standard DVD volume onto a DVDRAM disc, I can play it OK on my computer, using my LG 4160, and Power DVD as the player.

If I try to play the disc in my Panasonic E55, then the unit sees the disc as a RAM disc, and therefore noncompliant, without the required VRO format.

Is there anyway I can either:
1) fool the E55 into accepting a RAM disc as if it were a standard DVD, or

2) Changing the DVD volume into a Panasonic VRO format on the computer.

Or shall I just keep making DVD-R copies for playing on the Panasonic ?

[chas0039]

Panasonic thinks they own the RAM format so I think you are out of luck. I have given up and I burn to +RW and play there that way so I don't waste a disc. My Panasonic is OK with +RW bitset as ROM but yours may not be so check before you buy. If it works, the Ritek +RW 4X at newegg.com are very good, at least on my NEC 3500. -RW will work as well but I could not find any 4X that were any good.

[pippas]

Thanks for that chas -- guess I'll have another go with RW's!!

Haven't had much luck with them so far - had a failure rate of about 60% -- even after a full erase, they report as 'media not empty'--

Failure rate with RAM discs --- none!!! -- hoped there would be a way to use them

[Noahtuck]

You have to have a standalone dvd player that will play "dvd-ram".

I know there are some around but i only use dvd-ram to transfer video to my pc for editing and authoring so i never bothered picking one up but i did consider it before & looked into it.

Okay, i re-read that. your recording it with a VIDEO_TS folder on the ram disc

[handyguy]

"If I try to play the disc in my Panasonic E55, then the unit sees the disc as a RAM disc, and therefore noncompliant, without the required VRO format. "

Thats right, they aren't the same type of disk. A RAM disk is more like a HD than a video dvd disk.

[Noahtuck]

"If I try to play the disc in my Panasonic E55, then the unit sees the disc as a RAM disc, and therefore noncompliant, without the required VRO format. "

Thats right, they aren't the same type of disk. A RAM disk is more like a HD than a video dvd disk.

Yeah, i have a standalone panasonic but i never tried what pippas is trying.
Hmmm...

Thanks for that chas -- guess I'll have another go with RW's!!

Haven't had much luck with them so far - had a failure rate of about 60% -- even after a full erase, they report as 'media not empty'--

Failure rate with RAM discs --- none!!! -- hoped there would be a way to use them

& i do like the ram better than RW's but i never had a failure rate that high with rw's.... i have used them over and over many times to test diff. things on the standalone before burning to dvd+r. are the RW's you have been using old and been used alot ? how are you erasing them ??

[pippas]

Had a 10 pack of datawrite RW discs -- were OK for a couple of times, then would not erase - tried Nero, DVDinfopro, and deepburner - both quick and full erase- still came up 'media not empty'!

binned 'em!

I use DVDRAM to record cable stuff for my mother, who can't get cable -- she has a Panasonic s27 player, so that reads the RAM discs fine.

Pack of 10 RAM discs used over and over again, for more than a year, absolutely no problems.

I just thought that on the rare occasions where I make a DVD on my computer, of family stuff from the camcorder, it would be nice to burn the DVD to a RAM disc rather than a DVD-R. My LG4160 burner allows me to burn it OK, and plays it on the computer OK, but the Panasonic player (or my E55 recorder) sees the disc as RAM, and rejects it.

Same files to a DVD-R play fine!

Just wondered if there was a way to make the RAM disc look like the DVD-R to the standalone.

Seems it's not likely to be possible!!

Could try a different brand of RW's, I guess, but so far they don't inspire confidence like the RAM discs do

[lordsmurf]

Yeah, you simply bought well-known junk media.

[handyguy]

"Just wondered if there was a way to make the RAM disc look like the DVD-R to the standalone. "

A panasonic dvd player can play them. My panny s35 dvd player can play RAM disks. Matter of fact, the player came free after rebate with my panasonic e30. My e30 can play a RAM disk it wrote itself.

I don't know why your's doesn't play them.

[pippas]

My Panny E55 can read RAM discs it wrote itself OK - and the s27 player can play those discs too -- but neither can play a 'standard' DVD, authored on the computer, but written to a RAM disc instead of to a DVD-R

They both see it as a RAM disc (which to them should contain RATV files) and reject the 'VIDEO TS' format files as invalid.

I do understand the reason -- I just wondered if there was an easy way to fool them into reading the RAM discs as standard DVDs --

I suspect not

[handyguy]

Well, of course not

Cause you can't finalize a RAM disc to make it a video dvd.