Cleaning up already captured video?

[deramcreation]

I captured all my films that were on VHS. (Used to work in video production GASP! before non-linear editing). Is there any tool that I can use to clean up this captured footage? Kinda like a software based TBC or Video Processor? I have tried virtualdub but I don't have much success in the tests I have done. I was thinking of using the video settings in TMPGenc but not sure how well they work. Also my media is mpeg2 so something I can correct the video using mpeg2 would be great. Don't really wanna convert to anther format.

Thanks for any advice ^_^

[lordsmurf]

It depends on the error.
Every error has a different solution.

[deramcreation]

Mostly chroma errors. Perhaps a little bit of bluring needed.

[SatStorm]

You can correct those things with virualdub mpeg2
load your mpeg 2 to virtualdub mpeg 2 and add a couple of filters to clean the noise...
There are built in filters for chroma errors and bluring.
TMPGenc filters do a great job, but virtualdub / avisynth filters do better...

[State Of Mind]

AviSynth is the ultimate solution.

[lordsmurf]

Not really, no.

Hardware is REALLY needed for chroma mess. Same for blurring.

The JVC S-VHS DNR/TBC would have fixed the chroma problem, a snap.

A detailer (Vidicraft, SignVideo), would have easily helped the softness.

As of now, you can play with VirtualDub, TMPGENC, or AVISYNTH filters, but they'll all work about the same.

Desaturating color slightly generally helps hide chroma noise.

And then sharpern filters might increase the sharpness some (but don't do it too much, as it could affect your interlace, if used). Can also increase inherent noise in the picture.

[SatStorm]

Those things are not always possible, especially when you are not pro and you don't wish to buy pro stuff.
In that case, filtering is the best alternative you have. And costs only a few!
Also, with heavy filtering, you can succeed miracles. That needs time something the hobbiest have but the pro don't have. And here is the difference!

IMO, with filters you can correct lot of things in a far lower bugdet

[deramcreation]

Yes, Sorry I haven't been posting to this topic lately.
I actually went back and captured off an industrial deck. It helped some but my next question is where to get filters for virtualdub mpeg2?

[johns0]

Google it for virtualdub filters,you will find a lot of links for them,thats how i found the filters i needed.

[deramcreation]

Thanks!!

Is there any way to save the output of the media input to virtuadubmpeg2 as an mpeg2?
If there is I don't see it.

[johns0]

What you should do is apply the filters and frameserve,go to the virtualdub folder and click on auxsetup.exe and click on install handler,then choose start frameserve from file.

Open tmpgenc and load the vdr file from the frameserve process and encode away.

[deramcreation]

Got it ^_^

[ronnylov]

Not really, no.
And then sharpern filters might increase the sharpness some (but don't do it too much, as it could affect your interlace, if used). Can also increase inherent noise in the picture.

When filtering interlaced video it is a good idea to separate the fields before applying filters which may affect the interlace otherwise, and reassembe the fields after the filtering was made.

But I agree to not filter too much. Too much sharpening may increase the noise and make the video harder to compress and too much denoising may make the picture too blurry with a "plastic" unnatural appearance. Mostly I get the best results in my opinion by not filtering at all.

When I was a "newbie" I often applied a lot of software filters beleiving I would get great results but I have learned that in many cases it only makes things worse.

[SatStorm]

You can fold/unfold the fields but the result gonna have interlace artifacts even on TV from my experience (unfortunatelly).

The "Filtering too much" doesn't mean neccessary using many filters. You can filter too much by using one filter in a very high value.

I alway filter any source. Sometimes it doesn't help visually, but it helps later on the encoding. A "smart" filtering elimates later macroblock artifacts on a mpeg 2 final project