How to copyright DVD, and to do it efficently to stop.....

[onesikgypo]

hey i was just wondering if there was a way i could encrypt or copyright my dvd so they still play fine, but when users try to use something like Nero to copy it, or even some more "advanced" programs, it will stop them

thankyou

[yoda313]

Hello,

No not really. If we can rip official hollywood dvds what makes you think you can protect your own?????

Just ask them not too....

Kevin

[jimmalenko]

https://www.videohelp.com/faq#copyprotect
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=223640

[onesikgypo]

Just ask them not too....

:P that didnt work with holywood either

[jimmalenko]

Before this even gets off the ground, think about this:

User types 'copy a DVD' into google. Within 10 seconds they're browsing this site reading this thread. Then its simply a case of match your DVD to the copy protection method.

[zworg2]

hey i was just wondering if there was a way i could encrypt or copyright my dvd so they still play fine, but when users try to use something like Nero to copy it, or even some more "advanced" programs, it will stop them

thankyou

NO ITS NOT

Holywood have millions of dollars.
Media companys have millions of dollars
Companys trying to protect DVD's have millions of dollars.

Hackers have dollars

The most recent form of protection placed (that i know of) on a DVD (on Resident Evil 2) was discussed here for a while, and then the solution was discovered and everyone was happily backing their copy of RE2 up.

If holywood (etc) can't do it, what makes you think you can?????

And if you can, don't you think;

1) Holywood would have bought out the rights to hte software by now
2) Hackers would have found a way around it by now.

Zworg2

(and b4 ne 1 gets offended, i use the term hacker in its loosest possible sense)

[adam]

If holywood (etc) can't do it, what makes you think you can?????

He didn't say he thought he could do it. He was just asking if it were possible. Just because the answer is no that doesn't mean its an improper question.

[mats.hogberg]

No, but it has been asked umpteen gazillion times before, and is always a target for ridicule. The replies here are some of the more balanced I've seen...

/Mats

[offline]

So long as it stays nice this thread will be left open.

/ offline

[lordsmurf]

Encrypt? Sure. Breakable? Yes.
Note: Cannot encrypt on DVD-R/DVD+R.

Copyright? Sure. Ignorable? Yes.

[Nilfennasion]

There is one way to stop people from copying the content of your DVD. At least, one that is partly garanteed to work.







Namely, make the content so lousy that nobody would want to make copies of it. This solution is basically twofold. One, you can make the video look so bad that nobody would want to bother trying to copy it. Unfortunately, this has the backfire effect in that nobody would legitimately want to watch it, either. Just go onto any newsgroup for Region 4 and ask them about the original release of Dune. You'll soon see.

The second aspect of this solution is to make your actual content so bad that nobody would want to make a copy of it. In other words, to make the dramatic content so bad that nobody wants the damned thing. Of course, you still have guys who enjoy watching crap copying it, but that's a cult thing.

[mats.hogberg]

To get back on track, you could add a dummy title that gets written last to the disc, say some few 100 MB. This will be at the outer edge of the disc. Then deliberately destroy that (outer) part of the DVD surface (using a marker or make a scratch). This will at least put those, whose DVD copying knowledge is limited to pressing one button, off.

/Mats

[guns1inger]

Namely, make the content so lousy that nobody would want to make copies of it. This solution is basically twofold. One, you can make the video look so bad that nobody would want to bother trying to copy it. Unfortunately, this has the backfire effect in that nobody would legitimately want to watch it, either. Just go onto any newsgroup for Region 4 and ask them about the original release of Dune. You'll soon see.

The second aspect of this solution is to make your actual content so bad that nobody would want to make a copy of it. In other words, to make the dramatic content so bad that nobody wants the damned thing. Of course, you still have guys who enjoy watching crap copying it, but that's a cult thing.

The most recent form of protection placed (that i know of) on a DVD (on Resident Evil 2) was discussed here for a while, and then the solution was discovered and everyone was happily backing their copy of RE2 up.

Does anyone else have trouble reconciling these two statements ?

[mats.hogberg]

The makers of RE2 opted for 2 (probably 3 - I guess CSS is present too) copy deterrents!

/Mats

[MackemX]

the simple answer here is yes you can and mats explained one way. I think this is why people have chilled a little since these new methods came out

there are a few more ways I know and can think of. I don't want to say as you never know who's reading these threads , so just trust me. I'm waiting for Sony to come along and pay me big bucks for my ideas :P

also mentioned above, it's pointless in the long run because as soon as something new comes out it will have some sort of workaround within the week
if you are reading this then you are either quoting me which is cheating or you have copied this text into a word document, which is it?

[edsmith77]

Another very simple solution which any programmer worth his salt knows. It is the very powerful, IF ... THEN ... ELSE statement.
The solution is to incorporate this programming statement into the first few lines of the DVD Reader Code. It goes something like this.

;;;;
IF -- This is a genuine, fee paying, law abiding customer
THEN
allow access to the DVD
ELSE
execute disc self destruct code
stop
END IF

I leave the actual implementation up to the real programmers in the world.

[Gurm]

The question is how hard do you want to work in order to do this? And on what scale?

Is there a good, efficient, replicable method of doing it IN SOFTWARE? No, not really.

Can it be done? Sure. Like someone else said, dummy VOBS with a big friggin' SCRATCH down the middle (sort of like a homemade ArcCos protection). But the problem with this is twofold:

1. You have to physically damage your disc.

2. You have to physically damage your disc.

Wait, did I say twofold? Well it's bad in general. Let's say you're selling homemade movies, right? Well, your customers will bitch if you sell them scratched discs.

Then there's the issue of having to be VERY careful in order to make it a bad enough scratch that your average reader can't read it, but a light enough scratch that you don't actually hurt the disc.

In other words, no there is no GOOD way to do it. There are some highly convoluted tricks you can do in order to fake out the casual Nero user, but none that are easy and reliable/replicable enough to bother with.

[MackemX]

In other words, no there is no GOOD way to do it. There are some highly convoluted tricks you can do in order to fake out the casual Nero user, but none that are easy and reliable/replicable enough to bother with.

you are right as most of the methods I have thought and tested wouldn't work if they were on a DVD-R. All you do is simply copy the disc using Nero as you said, regardless of the data being valid or not. If I could add CSS protection to my DVD's then that would make them very difficult to copy as most rippers would have difficulty

you could scratch the DVD from the top side and scrap off the dye once it's burnt. No reader can read data that isn't there so most copiers would barf. If you want to get real brutal, you could just drill a hole at a certain point on the DVD you know contains dummy data

[handyguy]

Even then a person could point a camcorder at their computer lcd screen & copy it.

[canadateck]

Anyone ever try that DVD protectionn they have in Ulead DVD workshop? I know it cant stop anyone,Just wanted to know if, say a DVD Recorder would see the protection?

[Nilfennasion]

Does anyone else have trouble reconciling these two statements ?

Not at all. I know plenty of people who copy or watch films for bragging rights to say that they have some of Hollywood's worst produce. Hell, I have You Got Served floating around somewhere, if that tells you anything. But the people who want to obtain bad film for the sake of it being bad are not your usual Ma And Pa VCR types. They're more of a cult-like specimen.