Today, the ilo people emailed me back about the problems I'm having with the dvdr04 not being able to edit channels. They told me I could not edit channels on the 04 model. It could only be done on the model with the hard drive. My owners manual says dvdr04 right on the front and on page 13 it plainly states that the tv channels can be edited and/or renamed. It says nothing about the hd model. Oh well..I've pretty much given up on that feature working anyways. It's a very nice dvd recorder for 150.00. I'm very happy with it. It's pretty much left my vcr in the dust as far as timer recording. I'll still use my vcr to transfer tape to dvd though. That works perfectly.