how do you all feel about this?

[Heywould3]

i have over the years accumulated hundreds of console games.. IE Sega N64 Atari coleco vision etc.. and for one reason or another i dont use them. either the tv connector has gone bad or the contacts are dirty and you have to fux with it to get it to work.. anyway.. as most of you know there are EMUs for 90% of the consoles out there.. would it be wrong to DL all the games i have and the corresponding EMU and play them on a computer? i mean do any of YOU feel it would be? ive tested a few and some seem to be pretty good.. the only one that is questionable is the dreamcast one.. and that one even works pretty good other than getting the controller to work correctly and the fact that you need a pretty fast computer for it to work.

but anyway.. im not about to spend the time getting all my old boxes working or set up again.. it would be very nice to have them all on a DVD or CD and just pup them in computer.. hell even my Xbox when moded can play almost all other games. (if ported that is)

do you guys think that’s "warez" and therefore wrong?

[yoda313]

Hello,

No not warez if you have the game itself

Kevin

[Heywould3]

Hello,

No not warez if you have the game itself

Kevin

yeah i pretty much agree with that.. BUT i look at it like this.. if i had the game then i should find a way to copy the ROM off the disc/k or cartridge myself.. to me its a grey area.. if i cant do it then i could have someone else do it for me.. and thats what DL is.. but in order to do it you need special devices to do it.. and in a sense its defeating the protection.. not a big deal.. but the COs that make them dont want you to do that.. im not saying that i agree with them its just that there is a reason they do it and i think if you asked a fed they would say it was stealing. anyway.. just wanted all your opinions.. ill do what i feel is ok either way but some still think its stealing

[yoda313]

Hello,

Yeah I see your point.

BUT it's kind of like DVD backups. Not EXPRESSLEY ok'd by fairuse but that's HOW we justify it here. We use it for our OWN backup

Kevin

[tekkieman]

Take this as only my opinion, but you just stated that you will do what you think is fair. In my opinion, that's all you really need. You've already made up your mind.

Asking us does one of two things - it will either tell you that noone thinks it's ok, and you'll probably do it anyway, or we'll think it's ok, and you'll do it anyway. If you can live with it, you should really take the "don't ask...don't tell" approach.

By the way, I probably would.

[Heywould3]

Take this as only my opinion, but you just stated that you will do what you think is fair. In my opinion, that's all you really need. You've already made up your mind.

Asking us does one of two things - it will either tell you that noone thinks it's ok, and you'll probably do it anyway, or we'll think it's ok, and you'll do it anyway. If you can live with it, you should really take the "don't ask...don't tell" approach.

By the way, I probably would.

your right.. and i wasnt asking to get direction on what i should do.. i was just wondering how people here fealt.. and i pretty much think i know.. it was just something i was thinking about and thought i would ask

[yoda313]

Hello,

much think i know.. it was just something i was thinking about and thought i would ask

TOO MUCH THINKING!!!

Kevin

[tekkieman]

Not trying to stir anything up, or point any fingers (yeah right), but how many post have you read from people ordering 1000 or more blank media a month, or asking how bootleggers print their DVDs?

What response di you think you would get?

[yoda313]

Not trying to stir anything up, or point any fingers (yeah right), but how many post have you read from people ordering 1000 or more blank media a month, or asking how bootleggers print their DVDs?

What response di you think you would get?

Hello,

What you think that makes someone look suspuscious???

Oops better delete some posts......



Kevin

[Heywould3]

Not trying to stir anything up, or point any fingers (yeah right), but how many post have you read from people ordering 1000 or more blank media a month, or asking how bootleggers print their DVDs?

What response di you think you would get?

Point taken.. but i also asked this in the OT forum where most of the people in here are regualrs and have opinions one way or the other.. not about warez but about stuff you own and if you should be allowd to use them for ever or what ever.. im not talking about the people the get 1billion DVDrs a month or anything and im not tryingto get people to admit to stealing or DL warez.. just an opinion of weather or not you should be able to DL or otherwise aquire a copy of a game you pruchased years ago. what if i have one and it got wet do i need ot buy it again? or can i replace it by DLing it? again.. i know what im gonna do but whats the feeling from others on this? again just opinions not weather YOU DL or make copies of friends stuff

[tekkieman]

Not trying to stir anything up, or point any fingers (yeah right), but how many post have you read from people ordering 1000 or more blank media a month, or asking how bootleggers print their DVDs?

What response di you think you would get?

Hello,

What you think that makes someone look suspuscious???

Oops better delete some posts......



Kevin

Not at all!

[Doramius]

BTW - It looks like another a** whooping is coming to Hollywood. It's not out of court yet, but the fight on "fair use" is appearing before the supreme court and they talked about these issues:

"Fair Use allows people to make personal Back-Ups of items they own."

"It is illegal to decrypt something that has a licensed encryption, without written consent."

Apparently, a supreme court judge is making his decision about the Hollywood companies. The whole thing is being kept as quiet as possible though. A good source of information to the media is that the companies are being fined and are required to provide a "BACK-UP ONLY" software for people to make personal copies of their CD's & DVD's. Also that they are not allowed to block the right of peoples "Fair Use" by mode of technology.

A lot of this is scampered material from various sources, but again, it's being kept very low profile. I'm betting Jack Valenti has a big hand in that feature. Prabably the same hand he masturbates with.

[bazooka]

BTW - It looks like another a** whooping is coming to Hollywood. It's not out of court yet, but the fight on "fair use" is appearing before the supreme court and they talked about these issues:

"Fair Use allows people to make personal Back-Ups of items they own."

"It is illegal to decrypt something that has a licensed encryption, without written consent."

Apparently, a supreme court judge is making his decision about the Hollywood companies. The whole thing is being kept as quiet as possible though. A good source of information to the media is that the companies are being fined and are required to provide a "BACK-UP ONLY" software for people to make personal copies of their CD's & DVD's. Also that they are not allowed to block the right of peoples "Fair Use" by mode of technology.

A lot of this is scampered material from various sources, but again, it's being kept very low profile. I'm betting Jack Valenti has a big hand in that feature. Prabably the same hand he masturbates with.

You are right, but that is way too much info on Vaginalenti.

[tekkieman]

Yes, but we've gone what... a whole week without the word masturbation in a thread!

[yoda313]

Yes, but we've gone what... a whole week without the word masturbation in a thread!

Hello,

I could have gone longer without it

Kevin

(being mentioned that is )

[tekkieman]

Yes, but we've gone what... a whole week without the word masturbation in a thread!

Hello,

I could have gone longer without it

Kevin

(being mentioned that is )

[bazooka]

Yes, but we've gone what... a whole week without the word masturbation in a thread!

Hello,

I could have gone longer without it

Kevin

(being mentioned that is )

Nice save

Open mouth, insert foot

[yoda313]

Hello,

Bazooka + Tekkieman - glad you liked my post



Kevin

[yoda313]

Hello,

Open mouth, insert foot

Sorry I ain't into that

Though we know a little more about you than we wanted too



Kevin

[bazooka]

Hello,

Open mouth, insert foot

Sorry I ain't into that

Though we know a little more about you than we wanted too



Kevin

Nope

I was talking about your last minute save on the post earlier.

[yoda313]

Hello,

Nope

I was talking about your last minute save on the post earlier.

I know that I was just trying to turn this into the "poster above you thread 2" since it's been silent all afternoon

Kevin

[lordsmurf]

Some ROMs are legal to download, some are not. "Download" is the key word.

[yoda313]

Some ROMs are legal to download, some are not. "Download" is the key word.

Hello,

Leave it to a MOD to get us back on topic :P :P

Kevin

[Doramius]

Technically, it is legal to download copyrighted material as long as you own the original. The question to that is why would someone need to download something when they already own it. The rebuttal is that something happened to the original and the person is looking for a replacement. Companies themselves don't want to spend the money on regulating it on the back end. mostly because of expense. It's cheaper and easier to do it on the front end. But they are finding out it is illegal for them to do so. They are only scooting by on technicalities and the fact that people have not enforced it. The same reason pirating has continued to happen. By them persuing the problem, they are only looking to catch themselves using the same system to make money by finding loopholes to extend the time they have.

[macleod]

Technically, it is legal to download copyrighted material as long as you own the original.

Where are you from? I do not believe this is the case for the US unless something has changed recently.

[bazooka]

Technically, it is legal to download copyrighted material as long as you own the original.

Where are you from? I do not believe this is the case for the US unless something has changed recently.

He lives in the US

[canadateck]

Canada music downloading is Legal.But uploading is not...LOL

[Doramius]

If you own the physical copy, you have personal viewing rights. One of which is to download a copy for you to personally view it. Uploading is illegal, because you are offering it to public and that is copyright infringment. You're not allowed to show or distribute the movie publicly. it's the same in the US as anywhere. The reason there is big stick about it is because the copyright holders are not the ones putting the movie online, and pirates (or people who do not have a physical licensed copy in their possesion) take advantage of downloading the movies too.

This applies to video games, music, movies, and even written documents.