XVCD help

[HelGhast]

Hi,

i want to make anXVCD max 4300kbit/s source from a DiVx/Xvid file and i need an easy to use program, anyone recommend any?

thanls

-helghast

[yoda313]

Hello,

Try tmpgenc with a kvcd template loaded. That should do it.

Though remember a xvcd is NONSTANDARD and will not work in every dvd player

Kevin

[HelGhast]

So KVCD is the same as XVCD right?

Also ive checked my player and it plays XVCD max 4300kbit/s

But what about the sound? Does TMPGenc handle that too?

Thanks

-HelGhast

[offline]

The FilmMachine seems to be the easiest.
Yes tmpgenc will handle the sound unless its
VBR or AAC.

[HelGhast]

So XVCD is the same as KVCD?

Also with that filmamchine mode how do i make it support XVCD?

-HelGhast

[offline]

HelGhast,

best to goto http://www.kvcd.net/portal/index.php
for a KVCD description. There have been some
heated discussions in the past about KVCD that we don't
want repeated.

Also check out the guides (at the left menu)

[HelGhast]

The thing i still dont understand is are KVCD and XVCD the same thing or do i just need a different template?

Also will players that play XVCD play KVCD?

Sorry if im being stupid

[jimmalenko]

The thing i still dont understand is are KVCD and XVCD the same thing or do i just need a different template?

Anything that is not to VCD standard specs is an XVCD by definition. This includes KVCD. So yes, a KVCD is also an XVCD because it strays from VCD compliance specifications.

Also will players that play XVCD play KVCD?

Most likely. As I said above, a KVCD is an XVCD.

There's a guide here for fitting any movie to one CD using TMPGEnc (which is essentially what you want to do).

[mats.hogberg]

XVCD=a VCD that doesn't conform to VCD standard. KVCD doesen't conform to VCD standard, so KVCD=XVCD
But to your initial question:

i want to make anXVCD max 4300kbit/s

That won't likely work.
A)That's DVD bit rates, so you wont fit much on a CD.
B)Not many (no?) players can spin a CD fast enugh to pull data at that rate. It wont play/play with severe stutter. SVCD bit rate is usually max for a CD, around half of the bit rate you'd like.


/Mats

[HelGhast]

I meant the max my player can handle is that bitrate

What kind of bitrate is VCR>Good quality? my downstairs player plays very few cd-r only if they are burnt at like 4x but my upstairs handles everything

-Edit

Jimmalenko that page is not to be found....



Thanks

-HelGhast

[offline]

Here is Jim's correct link

http://members.dodo.net.au/~jimmalenko/TMPGEnc1CD.htm

[jimmalenko]

Here is Jim's correct link

http://members.dodo.net.au/~jimmalenko/TMPGEnc1CD.htm

Bugger!

link fixed.

Thanks offline

[mats.hogberg]

I meant the max my player can handle is that bitrate What kind of bitrate is VCR>Good quality? my downstairs player plays very few cd-r only if they are burnt at like 4x but my upstairs handles everything

VCD=1150 kbps, nothing else. If you want to stray out of standard, (creating a XVCD) 1850 kbps is the highest you should go, since that's the max mpeg1 DVD bit rate too IIRC (making it simple to "upgrade" the VCD to DVD). For higher Q, I suggest SVCD at up to 2200 kbps, or CVD at SVCD bit rates. (CVD is basically a SVCD with a lower horisontal resolution.)

/Mats

[HelGhast]

My players dont support CVD or SVCD

What kind of quaity is a VCD? Is it about VCR quality

Also if i encode the movie at 1850 kbps will it fit onto a 80min cd-r with overburning?

Thanks for being patient and helping me

-HelGhast

[offline]

VCD at 1150 Kbs is sub VHS quality. XVCD at 1850
kbps is almost VHS quality, if not equal.

The question you should ask is how many minutes
of video can you fit at 1850 kbps. The anwer to this
and other birate questions can be found by using
the bitrate calculator. What is your desired audio
bitrate? It it stereo or mono?

(see tools, left hand side mneu for the calculator)

[mats.hogberg]

Also if i encode the movie at 1850 kbps will it fit onto a 80min cd-r with overburning?

A well made VCD from perfect source material is to my eyes equal to a medium quality VHS tape.
If it will fir or not is entirely dependent on the length of your movie. At 1150 kbps, you can fit between 79 - 80 min on a 80 min CD-R without overburning. At 1850 kbps, you can fit around 49-50 min.
Even if your player doesn't support SVCD/CVD, you could try the VCD header trick, that might work (tricking the player into believing it's a VCD, while it is in fact playing SVCD). Since both DVD and SVCD/CVD is mpeg2 video, there's no reason for a DVD player not to play SVCD IMHO...

/Mats

[HelGhast]

Yes i was going to do the header trick but it requires multiple cd-rs/rws and wont fit on a normal disk

Ill try the TMPGenc and tell you how i get on, thanks guys!



-edit

Doesnt tmpgenc cause messages in the midle of the film if you use the freeware version? i dont really want this...


HelGhast

[mats.hogberg]

Yes i was going to do the header trick but it requires multiple cd-rs/rws and wont fit on a normal disk
-HelGhast

I think you have to make your mind up! Best quality, or least # of discs? These two options are mutually exclusive...
(And the VCD Header Trick doesn't require multiple CDs. But SVCD/CVD at higher bit rates often do, depending on movie length...)

/Mats

[HelGhast]

Nvm ive got it encoding at my preferred rates now, ill tell you how it goes in a bir

-HelGhast

[HelGhast]

Ok so i totally screwed up and know what to do now

Only problem is when i use belight gui and hit start it flashs with 2 command line windows and no file pleas help this is really annoying me

-HelGhast

[mats.hogberg]

Never use BeSweet/BeLight, so I can't help you with that ...

/Mats

[lordsmurf]

Sounds like corrupt AC3. View the logs.

[HelGhast]

IT WORKED IT WORKED!

Only on my upstairs player though

Heres how i did it

First made a awav of the audio using virtual dub
next encoded my custom XVCD template using tmpgenc and encoded the film+sound
used nero to burn at 2x non compliant

Popped in dvd player recognize as VCD 2.0 and once i hit play, playback started

Thanks guys!

Heres a beer



Only one because i'm cheap :P

-HelGhast