multi films on one DVD

[Joyn]

Have just been given a DVD with 3 films on it and it is perfect quality. Even has a menu for the 3 films. How is this done?

[hexxisoft]

could be a low bitrate at 1/2 D1, it could be that you're watching it on a small screen, who knows?

[VideoSan]

Perhaps the creator of the DVD used a desktop DVD recorder and recorded the 3 events in EP(8H) mode, roughly equivalent to the VHS EP mode. As long as it's viewed on a small screen, most action on the screen will be quite viewable without much, if any, pixellation. On a standard consumer recordable DVD, you can put 8 hours on it in EP(8H) mode. equivalent to a VHS T-160 tape in duration.

[monzie]

Perhaps the creator of the DVD used a desktop DVD recorder and recorded the 3 events in EP(8H) mode, roughly equivalent to the VHS EP mode. As long as it's viewed on a small screen, most action on the screen will be quite viewable without much, if any, pixellation. On a standard consumer recordable DVD, you can put 8 hours on it in EP(8H) mode. equivalent to a VHS T-160 tape in duration.

Whats EP(8H) mode in DVD? Never heard of it. Is it a reduced res format like 352/480-576 or VCDesque?

[jimmalenko]

Yep, I'd say it's probably half-D1.

Could quite possibly be a DL disc.

Might have been DVDShrunk or DVD2One-ed.

Plenty of ways to skin this cat

[VideoSan]

The manual for my Panasonic DMR-E75V can be found in PDF format at
this
link. On p. 27 it discusses the various available speeds and indicates EP(6H) and EP(8H). These speeds allow for recording of 6 and 8 hours respectively on a single-layer DVD-R. I'm afraid I don't know the technical term corresponding to EP(6H) and EP(8H). I've successfully played finalized DVDs at this speed on a variety of set top players, but an older Toshiba unit I have will not play them hardly at all, reminscent of how those old SP-only VCRs would attempt to play EP-mode tapes.

[Joyn]

Thanks everybody but this is 100% compression for each movie - checked it in Shrink. It also has a lovely menu with pictures of the 3 movies and details about each of them. Notice a mention of Spruce Technologies so must be made with their software. May be forced to buy it!!!

[RealaT]

So what you're saying is you have a dvd that contains 3 movies and a home made menu to allow you to select your film.

I was making these 2 years ago when i first bought my dvd writer. There's tons of guides on this site with info on how to do this.

[samijubal]

Thanks everybody but this is 100% compression for each movie - checked it in Shrink. It also has a lovely menu with pictures of the 3 movies and details about each of them. Notice a mention of Spruce Technologies so must be made with their software. May be forced to buy it!!!

Any single layer disc that has already been run through shrink or a similiar program is going to come up 100% because it doesn't have to be shrunk again. This tells nothing about how much it was compressed to begin with, only the person who did the disc would know that.

[Joyn]

To RealaT - I have found guides to put the 3 films on to one DVD but how to get a menu using what are obviously the front covers for the 3 as icons leading to the info which has been copied from the back cover? The covers are also included on the disc. This has been watched on a large screen with no loss of quality. Having made many SVCDs before buying my DVD writer I can assure everyone that I do know the difference.

[JEEPn]

Is the DVD a DVD5 or DVD9(single or dual)?

I think you can use DVDInfo to check the bitrate of the movies. Then maybe you can re-create it. Making the menus are not hard but fitting 6hrs of HQ vid on a single side DVD is. If you find out something, please share with the rest of us.

[tekkieman]

Is the DVD a DVD5 or DVD9(single or dual)?

I think you can use DVDInfo to check the bitrate of the movies. Then maybe you can re-create it. Making the menus are not hard but fitting 6hrs of HQ vid on a single side DVD is. If you find out something, please share with the rest of us.

Yes, please share! I'm just starting to do this now. I'm taking all three of my daughter's Harry Potter movies and putting them all on one dvd. I know I wont have any trouble making the menu, but getting over 7 hours of video on one dvd is going to be fun! I may opt to get a DVD-9 for this project, but I would rather do the first run on DVD-5 just to make sure I can do it. If the quality is acceptable on the 20" it will be viewed on, I may do the DVD-9 for the 52".

<Watching thread closely....?

[jimmalenko]

Just thinking out loud here ...

6 hours on a DVD9 = 2889kbps video w/ 192kbps audio


2889kbps will be fine for a 2-Pass VBR @ Half D1. Maybe even bump this up to about 3500 and use DVDShrink to pull it back down to size ...

Quite easily doable IMO ...

[semi]

You can put three svcd's on a dvd with svcd2dvd. There's a forum for this software on this site. If the svcd's is high quality it's hard to tell difference from a real dvd when watching on a normal TV.

(I'm replying to the original post.)

[monzie]

You can put three svcd's on a dvd with svcd2dvd. There's a forum for this software on this site. If the svcd's is high quality it's hard to tell difference from a real dvd when watching on a normal TV.

(I'm replying to the original post.)

Bollox. You must be blind, or your 'normal' TV is shite.

[samijubal]

I can barely get 1 movie with what I call good quality. What other people call good obviously isn't what I call good.

[semi]

You can put three svcd's on a dvd with svcd2dvd. There's a forum for this software on this site. If the svcd's is high quality it's hard to tell difference from a real dvd when watching on a normal TV.

(I'm replying to the original post.)

Bollox. You must be blind, or your 'normal' TV is shite.

To get hq svcd's you have to use a hq encoder... namely cce. If you do it right it's tough to spot the difference on normal TV. The movie can of course not be too long, too much action etc.. if you gonna fit three movies. Animated movies encodes really well. Many svcd's out there's crappy because they have to fit a specified amount of cd's. Normally two. Using dvdshrink to lower the bitrate will destroy any movie.
(Svcd2dvd does'nt reencode the svcd's it puts 'dvd tags2' on the video and convert the audio to 48KHz to meet the dvd standards.)
I've edited this post BTW

[BigBadBob]

Perhaps the creator of the DVD used a desktop DVD recorder and recorded the 3 events in EP(8H) mode, roughly equivalent to the VHS EP mode. As long as it's viewed on a small screen, most action on the screen will be quite viewable without much, if any, pixellation. On a standard consumer recordable DVD, you can put 8 hours on it in EP(8H) mode. equivalent to a VHS T-160 tape in duration.

I have a question. On a pc dvd drive can i put say 4 hours of video on it and play it in standalone dvd player? Say if i record a tv show, and record at 4mbit (which i think is half DVD).

[Joyn]

Am still trying to find out how this was done. Definitely not made from good SVCDs. Wish I knew who the originator is but don't. Still trying and using good contacts. Will post when (not if!) I get my answers. Hope to soon have some clever clogs students working on it. In answer to a previous question - one of the films is a DVD-9 (2 layer) but don't know about the other 2. I certainly do not like the quality I get from anything other than a re-authored DVD so I am fussy.

[lordsmurf]

You can get up to 4 hour of video on a DVD with decent quality. Use a good encoder (Procoder, maybe CCE), and then 2.0-2.5 avg bitrate VBR 352x480 MPEG-2 (leave interlace if interlaced, progressive if prog).

It's possible. High action and extreme detail may suffer a bit. Better to go about 3 hours per DVD, so 2 movies are surely possible.

If you like VCD, you can even get 3-5 movies on a single DVD. Not suggested, but some people don't have high quality expectations.

[jimmalenko]

Am still trying to find out how this was done.

Here's a couple of possibilities:

Yep, I'd say it's probably half-D1.

Could quite possibly be a DL disc.

Might have been DVDShrunk or DVD2One-ed.

Plenty of ways to skin this cat

Just thinking out loud here ...

6 hours on a DVD9 = 2889kbps video w/ 192kbps audio


2889kbps will be fine for a 2-Pass VBR @ Half D1. Maybe even bump this up to about 3500 and use DVDShrink to pull it back down to size ...

Quite easily doable IMO ...

Do you want to know how this one was done just for the sake of knowing, or do you want to know so you can make your own ?

[semi]

Am still trying to find out how this was done. Definitely not made from good SVCDs. Wish I knew who the originator is but don't. Still trying and using good contacts. Will post when (not if!) I get my answers. Hope to soon have some clever clogs students working on it. In answer to a previous question - one of the films is a DVD-9 (2 layer) but don't know about the other 2. I certainly do not like the quality I get from anything other than a re-authored DVD so I am fussy.

Ok. Which three movies are on the dvd5? Is it ac3 sound?
It's easy btw to fit three ntsc movies which are about 90 minutes on a dvd9.
F ex Donnie Darko Pal version is less than 4GB.