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  1. Ok i have a pioneer 440. My quesiton is, how come on some movies, i think for pal format, itll full screen them ( doesnt support pal and tries to convert to ntsc?) and then some of the top gets cut off.. I originally had an apex and thought it was causing side ct off, not to mention play back sucked, so i went and bought pioneer and echanged apex.. Anyway pioneer does same side cutoff ( tv sucks i guess) but how come pioneer will full screen some movies instead of maintain the 4:3 aspect ratio on pal ..

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  2. I think it depends on the movie and how the DVD Player handles them, if the movie was Wide Screen and when you encoded it, you didn't include the Black Bars, then it depends on the player on how it will translate it, with the black bars it will be Wide Screen, without them, Full Screen (and stretched).

    It depends on the encoding, and you can also check how your DVD Handles the VCD, some might have a feature of zooming.
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  3. The pioneer 440 does not have a zoom feature. I gave that up with the apex for the pioneer's better quality...When you said black bars, thats the movies it looks like it does it on.. The ones that have artificial black bars.. or so far as i've tested... It did make Monsters inc a little large but not a lot. However on movies where black bars are clearly put in such as like shrek rla long time back, american pie 2, etc itll crop out those black bars and like "resize" picutre to fit screen but then cuts some of the top off. I do not know if ihad a bigger television if it wuld correct the problem as i only have a 19 inch ( as the last dvd had side cut off?), but still i dont see how unless the movies are not made to fit a tv.... ANyway, someone let me know and hope you respond again sefy as maybe we can figure this out.

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  4. keeping this on top.. so someone can reply with suggestion /advice
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  5. Hi Again, sorry for late reply, hard to keep up in touch with all the forum and write a guide, thankfully i'm on a rest from the guide

    As for your problem, do you happen to have the feature in your DVD that you tell it which type of TV you have ? cause I do, and I thought setting it to 16:9 would set the movies to play like that, and for some reasons all movies cut the black bars even though I made them with them, and they played full screen, then I changed it to 4:3, and I got the black bars back.

    See if you have something like that, and if it helps.
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  6. yeah, and i've tried that. I do no tknow if maybe the tc size is too small... I know your knowledgeable on the topic, could that have anything to do it with.. I have tried swtiching from wide to normal screen on my tv and messing with the 16:9 and 4:3 but nothin seems to correct that.. I do not know why it crops out the black bars.. since you said yours did that, i take it that its a common problem?
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  7. Go to Setup.
    In Video1, for TV Screen, choose 4:3 (Pan&Scan).


    I use these settings and my movies play perfectly. 4:3 dvds, widescreen dvds, anamorphic widescreen dvds, 4:3 svcds/vcds, and widescreen svcds/vcds all play perfectly.

    But, I only own and encode NTSC movies. I don't have PAL.
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  8. FreeMovies, do just like bbb mentioned, that should fix the problem you are having, if not, there has got to be some setting you changed that caused all this problem.
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  9. Hey sefy... I think BB answered my question partially... I have no problems with the dvd player recognizing ntsc and its black bars... I think the problem is with Pal Vcds ( havent had probs with dvd's) as i do not know if it supports it... the apex i returned supported both pal and ntsc and convert to which ever format... However playback suckd on it so i bought this...I am just trying to see if this supports pal or it converts it to full screen in its attempt to play it. i just tired settings and it doesnt have any affect whether i put it to 4:3, 4:3 pan scan, or 16:9......... I cant find anything, even on the webpage about pal and ntsc playing... If you have a good connection BBB, would you do me a favor and download the pal samples and let me know if it full screens them.. Id greatly appreciate it.. I do not have the samples but i assume ull either have the prob or not with the pal format smaples. ALso, as i was inquiring, what size television do you have your dvd hooked to??? that is my second guess as since vcd's are not formatted to tv, my 19 inch is too small?... anyway thx



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  10. My Monitor is a Philips Brilliance 19" (about 4 years old) and my TV is a 28" (7 years old atleast), and my DVD is an old 525 Pioneer (3 years atleast).

    All my movies are VideoCD's or SxVCD's, all I use is Wide Screen format.

    I hope this information helps you.
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  11. Don't laugh. My current TV is 9 inches.

    But, it's a Sony Trinitron. I wanted quality and a flatter screen but not the weight because I was moving around a bit.

    Ok, I'll try the PAL clips and see if I can get them to work.
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  12. I dont know if i can ask ya, but if not edit this.. Is there an email i can send u a pal clip to have u put to a cdrw and see what your dvd player does to it? I made a 35 sec clip of cd 2 on american pie... If u look at the clip ( maybe the problems i am having are the way its encoded and the few pals are not traditional encoding????) you see black bars.. but if you play this or similar clips that size i loose the black bar as my pioneer fulls screen this.. Let me know.. I am 56k but the file is only 5.4 mb's so i am willing to up it if you guys are willing to test this for me. if you choose to view it on you pc as to notice black bars, burn it to a cdrw ( that way you dont waste a cd) and then play it on your dvd.. Let me knw. I'd so appreciate this!!!
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  13. Okay. I downloaded and burned the PAL SVCD clip (Martin Lawrence Movie clip) and it's in black and white and the screen keeps going up up up. It's also in a European language. Dutch?

    I downloaded the PAL VCD (Wayne's World 2 clip) clip and it plays. The clip is 4:3 full screen and the Pioneer 440 cuts off the top (bottom too?) like you said.

    So, I guess if you want to watch PAL VCDS, you have to convert it into NTSC. But I think that this is difficult. The sound will be out of sync maybe. You can experiment but I never use PAL so that's it for me.

    My e-mail service won't let me receive more than 1 Meg attachments. Also, I think I explained on top that you are correct: the Pioneer 440 will crop a fullscreen PAL VCD. This is because PAL VCD is 352x288 (HxV) and the Pioneer 440 only understands NTSC 352x240.

    Do you live in Europe? Why do you have so many PAL movies?
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  14. Crap.. now i kinda regret returning the apex for this.. No i do not live in europe.. But lets keep this converstaion legal and say well the "internet has a variety of movies you can d/l".... including some in pal format.
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  15. Is the 440 older then the 525 ? cause i've never had those kind of problems, and I have both PAL and NTSC movies in Wide Screen
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  16. as far as i know, 440 is pioneer's new slim line model.. just below 444.
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  17. hmm... is it a multi region player ? cause here in Israel, because most of our movies come from the US and our local is PAL, then all of our DVD Players are both PAL and NTSC.
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  18. Huh i didnt know you were in Israel. A while back, we had a friend of the family living down there.( she moved from united states).I hear prices are high for a lot of things over there.. i remember the lady would send crayons to her grandkids as they were very expensive over there.

    Back on the subject, yeah that is what baffles me as you can change the ragion on the dvd by changing the code, yet it does not support pal????? it has a feature where you input a number and itll allow u to play different country/region dvd's... I think i am gonna call up pioneer and ask about pal playback as if it has that feature, and other coutnries use pal, then why wont it properly read my pal vcds....




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