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    ok. So the compatability list says that the pionner 333 supports XVCD 2500kbits and XSVCD 3kbits.

    I asume that is a typo. I made the assumption that 3kbit was actually 3000kbit. When I burn a move at that the sound is jerky. Anyone know the story on this player and XSVCDs?

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  2. I own a Pioneer DV-333. I have never known it not to play a disc that I made for it. I don't exceed 2600 Kb/S (SVCD) but I prefer a resolution of 352x480 which gives me better picture quality (X[S]VCD).

    I wouldn't go above those limits, not because I don't think the Pioneer would play them, but because I don't want to be locked into the Pioneer brand for the rest of my life.

    I expect the VCDs I make now to be playable on the DVD player I buy 5 years from now, or even 10, and the only way to ensure that level of compatibility is to stay within the boundaries of what it (and other [S]VCD players) can easily play.

    That's just me, though. Some people would encode up to 3,500 Kb/S if their player can handle it, simply because they assume their next player will be as generous. I'm a bit more pessimistic than that.
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    Interesting....

    so 352x480 instead of 480x480... that looks better?

    why is that?
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  4. Because you're spreading the same number of bits over a lower surface area, which increases quality by the same fraction.

    352x480 is more than 25% more efficient than 480x480 -- you would need a resolution chart in order to even see the difference in resolution, yet the picture quality is equivalent to 480x480 at 3,250 Kb/S.

    352x480 has two things going for it. (1) it's an MPEG-2 "sweet spot," and any player that can handle SVCD can handle SVCD at an arbitrary frame size. (Remember, that's one of the benefits of MPEG-2 from the getgo.) (2), 3,250 Kb/s (even virtual) is damned close to the transparency bitrate for that resolution of 4,000 Kb/S. It's the same as declaring "no macroblocks for my SVCDs, ever."

    Everything to gain, nothing to lose, compatibility preserved across brands. What more could a guy ask?

    <font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: KoalaBear on 2001-11-20 22:25:39 ]</font>
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