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  1. Well im about to get the R200 printer and start printing on DVDs. Im concerned about the fingerprints and smearing though. I noticed some of yo uput Krylon on your DVDs. I cant seem to find where I can buy it though. Their website says I can gte it at sears, autozone, walmart, but none of these stores eem to have it (from an online search). Where do you guys buy your Krylon???

    Alsocan any1 recommend any tips/techniques on putting it on. Ive heard people having problems with it beating up, and once you miss a spot its hard to cover it because it gets attracted to itself or something like that. So anyways Im looking for some tips so that I dont mess up my DVDs. Thanks..
    P.S. Dont forget to say where you got it, especially if its at a big store, I don thtink I have any hobby stores around here.

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    This may seem like a dumb question, but are you aware that "Krylon" is the brand name of the manufacturere and they manufacture many different paints and sprays for various purposes.

    I'm not sure what people are putting on DVDs, but I would guess that it's probably a clear spray coating (either matte or glossy). You can get those in various brands of which Krylon is just one (Testor's is another).

    So you probably need to find out exactly what you're looking for. Just asking for "Krylon" is a little like going to a restaurant and ordering "Campbells" or "Heinz".
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    Yes, and you don't say where you are located in profile. There must be some arts stores located somewhere?

    It is in art suppy places. And it is a clear coat. And you need to spray lightly with it, and then it does not bead up at all. Takes some practice.

    But when you get it right, it does look stunningly like a factory disc if the print worked out right.

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    Go to google and search for Krylon Clear Spray. You'll find a couple thousand stores that sell it on line as well as a few that you might find in your area (Sherman Williams for one).
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    I got it at K-Mart.
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  6. Okay thakns guys. The reason I mentioned Krylon is that most of the poeple here that use anything use Krylon brand so thats why I mentioned it. So I should get the clear coat glossy?

    Also what do you mean by a thin layer. Should I just gently press it or something. Should I start from the top and spray in horizontal lines as I go to down? Thanks...

    Could u please post the exact model of the spray you guys ar eusing. Dont want to get the wrong kind.
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    Try Home Depot, Lowe's, or your local hardware/paint store.

    It's clear spray paint - pure and simple. Go for the glossy - they come out beautiful.
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    Originally Posted by zgrm100
    Okay thakns guys. The reason I mentioned Krylon is that most of the poeple here that use anything use Krylon brand so thats why I mentioned it. So I should get the clear coat glossy?

    Also what do you mean by a thin layer. Should I just gently press it or something. Should I start from the top and spray in horizontal lines as I go to down? Thanks...

    Could u please post the exact model of the spray you guys ar eusing. Dont want to get the wrong kind.
    Hold the can at least one foot to 14 inches away from disc. Put disc on a sheet of newspaper, and lightly go over disc twice. But at 14 inches away, you will not go top to bottom across the disc. You will simply spray in a tiny circle. When the disc has enough on it, it will not look glossy really, as it dries it gets more glossy. The whole spraying should last 4 seconds tops.

    REMEMBER NOT CLOSER THAN 14 INCHES FROM DISC, or you will get waves and ripples as too much gets applied.

    KRYLON CRYSTAL CLEAR COATING 1303

    there, now you know!!!!
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  9. thanks hiptune. So I should get the glossy one right?

    Also when I hold it 14 inches away. I just spray it once without moving around the cd? I thought I should start off the cd and then move in horizontal lines further down. NO?
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    Originally Posted by zgrm100
    thanks hiptune. So I should get the glossy one right?

    Also when I hold it 14 inches away. I just spray it once without moving around the cd? I thought I should start off the cd and then move in horizontal lines further down. NO?
    at 12 to 14 inches away, you will see that the spray is already over half the disc. So you only move slightly up and down or left to right. You must do it to see how the spray comes out, there is no way for you to guess without ever holding the can of Krylon Crystal Clear Coat 1303.

    Best to give second coat if needed, and go very light the first time.
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  11. thanks hiptune. HOw long should I wait for the first coat to dry? Also can I start applying it right after I print the disc? Also the clear coat is the sme as the glossy one right?
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    Directions on the can will tell you how long to let the first coat dry.

    Clear Coat comes in both glossy and matte finish.
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    I use either the Krylon 1305 or 1306 sprays. The 1305 has a smoother glossier finish compared to the 1306. The 1306 finish has a more textured feel to it. They both dry enough so you can touch them within minutes assuming you don't put on too thick a coat. Also the climate (humidity) in your area could also affect dry times. Although I've been able to touch my sprayed disc's within minutes I would recommend that you wait several hours to be safe or use a printable disc that became a coaster and do a spray test.
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    Originally Posted by zgrm100
    thanks hiptune. HOw long should I wait for the first coat to dry? Also can I start applying it right after I print the disc? Also the clear coat is the sme as the glossy one right?
    Use your brains. You don't spray a coat on a disc still wet from the ink jet printer. Give it a half day to dry.
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    I got it at K-Mart.
    LOL that's actually wher I get Krylon (Paints not finishes) as well!

    I'm going to look into tis for my BeAll and OptoDisc Inkjet Printable DVD-R's.

    Just a few of questions though.

    1. Isn't "Spraypainting" the DVD a bad idea? Like won't it damage the Disc, or are we to assume the DVD is on a Lab-like flat floor and no laquer will "seep" under it onto the recorded surface?

    2. Will this "finish" damage my DVD Writer/Player or peel off of the DVD after it's dried? I've had issues with Krylon's silver paint where it'll peel off and I have a really lousy looking model kit, I would HATE to see this happen to a DVD.

    3. How long does it take to to dry, and WHERE do you guys "paint" your DVD's? (E.g. Garrage) I'm asking because the can of Krylon Silver paint says Dry to the touch in 30 Minutes, it feels more like 30 days at times! Ditto for the Pearl Gloss (Testors) Model Masters finish I've used on some kits where it seems to take forever to dry.

    4. Let me make sure I have the proccess down,

    A. Print the label onto the BLANK DVD.

    B. Burn the DVD and make sure it WORKS/verifies in the burner. (Duh!)

    C. Place DVD with DRIED "Label" from R200 onto a piece of newspaper. (Would a spare Jewel Case or a piece of bleeched/white paper be better than newspaper?) Make sure it's flat on the floor.

    D. Using Krylon Crystal CLear Coating 1303, (Thanks A LOT for the # man! ) hold the can 12" to 14" away from the Disc, spray for [i][b]FOUR SECONDS TOPS[i][b] and let the "Finish" dry.

    E. When the DVD is DEFIINITELY Dried, test it again and make sure it still plays.

    5. Finally, will my finish wear away after awhile, or is this just as good as any other form of covering a DVD? I've heard some people laminate the bottom so it doesn't scratch. I'm curious if this is good or bad and how to do this as well. But I was wondering what to do about the top too. It seemed like a BAD IDEA to buy laminating paper and then use an exacto blade to cut it off of a DVD so it fit the disc well.

    This pretty much souns like a good solution, I'm just worried about it "melting" off or heating up n my DVD Playe/Recorder which gets fairly "warm" at times and don't want the recorder damaged from a Disc covered in Krylon finish.

    Thanks for your help guys.

    Time to put my R200 to use... AFTER I buy a printer stand. ><
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  16. A. Print the label onto the BLANK DVD.

    B. Burn the DVD and make sure it WORKS/verifies in the burner. (Duh!)
    You'd probably be better off burning the disc first, then printing on it. It's just one less possibility of getting dust/dirt on the disc before burning.
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    Originally Posted by Cyrax9
    Originally Posted by mikel
    I got it at K-Mart.
    LOL that's actually wher I get Krylon (Paints not finishes) as well!

    I'm going to look into tis for my BeAll and OptoDisc Inkjet Printable DVD-R's.

    Just a few of questions though.

    1. Isn't "Spraypainting" the DVD a bad idea? Like won't it damage the Disc, or are we to assume the DVD is on a Lab-like flat floor and no laquer will "seep" under it onto the recorded surface?
    Well, you are using a specially coated printable disc, not plain silver right.

    [/quote]2. Will this "finish" damage my DVD Writer/Player or peel off of the DVD after it's dried? I've had issues with Krylon's silver paint where it'll peel off and I have a really lousy looking model kit, I would HATE to see this happen to a DVD.[/quote]

    No, this is not paint, but real acrylic coating.

    [/quote]3. How long does it take to to dry, and WHERE do you guys "paint" your DVD's? (E.g. Garrage) I'm asking because the can of Krylon Silver paint says Dry to the touch in 30 Minutes, it feels more like 30 days at times! Ditto for the Pearl Gloss (Testors) Model Masters finish I've used on some kits where it seems to take forever to dry.[/quote]

    I paint my discs in the stairway to the roof of my apt. biulding. And I put out a new section of the newspaper opened up. You need a draft for fresh ait, but not wind. This shit dries fairly fast. It aint model paint, nothing even like it close.

    [/quote]4. Let me make sure I have the proccess down,

    A. Print the label onto the BLANK DVD.

    B. Burn the DVD and make sure it WORKS/verifies in the burner. (Duh!)

    C. Place DVD with DRIED "Label" from R200 onto a piece of newspaper. (Would a spare Jewel Case or a piece of bleeched/white paper be better than newspaper?) Make sure it's flat on the floor.[/quote]

    no, you want a new sheet of newspaper, or brand new jewel case for each disc being soated. So a fresh section of the nespaper that has NOT been opened while the other discs were sprayed. Remember that the recored side of the disc can never touch anything that the spray has touched, or a sprayed discs has touched. So no jewel cases can be reused. Newspaper opened up, and disc sprayed. New section of newspaper for next disc.

    [/quote]D. Using Krylon Crystal CLear Coating 1303, (Thanks A LOT for the # man! ) hold the can 12" to 14" away from the Disc, spray for [i][b]FOUR SECONDS TOPS[i][b] and let the "Finish" dry.

    E. When the DVD is DEFIINITELY Dried, test it again and make sure it still plays.

    5. Finally, will my finish wear away after awhile, or is this just as good as any other form of covering a DVD? I've heard some people laminate the bottom so it doesn't scratch. I'm curious if this is good or bad and how to do this as well. But I was wondering what to do about the top too. It seemed like a BAD IDEA to buy laminating paper and then use an exacto blade to cut it off of a DVD so it fit the disc well.

    This pretty much souns like a good solution, I'm just worried about it "melting" off or heating up n my DVD Playe/Recorder which gets fairly "warm" at times and don't want the recorder damaged from a Disc covered in Krylon finish.

    Thanks for your help guys.

    Time to put my R200 to use... AFTER I buy a printer stand. ><[/quote]

    sure, no problem.
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    It's at wal-mart and even Home Depot in the paint section. You might want to save some coasters and test on them first. Best way to test a coaster (for myself) IMHO, is to set it on linoleom or hardwood floor, face down and scuff it lightly. Lightly clean it off. Then test your spraying ability.

    Another handy tip is go to Home Depot and get a wooden dowel about 1cm in diameter (or closer to the diameter of the hole in a disc if you prefer). You only need about 4"-6" in length of the dowel. Then get a 2X4 about 2' in length. Lay the 2X4 flat and about 3" from one end drill a hole in the center the diameter of the dowel (or slightly tigher). Put wood glue inside the 2X4 hole and slide the dowel in (may need a hammer if it's tight). Place your discs on it face up and now you have a handle to hold to allow you to spray evenly. It will also allow you to get a little heavy, if needed, keeping possible drips or beading to the edges. If going a little heavy remember to run masking tape around the thin edge and possibly over the label side to prevent drips and runoff getting where you don't want it to.
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    THis was an accidental double post. This second one may be deleted.
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    I use Krylon Low Odor Matt. Excellent, dries quickly and protects well with no beading.

    http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1596
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    Originally Posted by rr6966
    I use Krylon Low Odor Matt. Excellent, dries quickly and protects well with no beading.

    http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=1596
    I am sure its fine, and looks good to you.

    But I want that high glossy look like factory discs, so Matte finish will not do here.
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