look at this motherboard and twell me what this baby can do

[SIRCOOKS]

Foxconn P4 655A01-FX-6LRS 800/533MHz FSB Motherboard - someone plz look up this mother board and tell me what can it do 2.8 ghz, 3.0 ghz, or 3.2 ghz, i know it goes with ap4 socket 478 processor, and supports hyper threading, and runs on a prescott core, im just trying to see what size processor i need to buy for this baby..plz help me out

[andyp1]

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-186-011&depa=0

That's all I could find.
Nothing specific about processor size unfortunately , unless its any current P4 with HT and any prescott cored celeron.

[Roundabout]

You could find more about it on their website, www.foxconnchannel.com - but it's down at the moment. It was working a few days ago, so I think it'll be up again soon. Meanwhile, I just purchased a M-ATX mobo from them, (865M01-G-6ELS) and it doesn't specifically say in the manual what speed processor it supports. However, since it has 400/533/800 FSB & Prescott/Northwood/Willamette, it should support up to the highest speed of the P4's at the moment, which I think is 3.4Ghz. Yours should too, I'm sure. I agree with andyp1, it should work with any current P4.

[SIRCOOKS]

thanks for yalls help......if you can find anything more, plz do help me

[andyp1]

Quick question , do you have one of these boards or are you just considering one ??

[SIRCOOKS]

i allready have one, why..whats wrong with it

[andyp1]

don't worry , I was just wondering .
I hope someone can give you a definite answer.

[SIRCOOKS]

Afrom your experince, how would you rate it, i know its not asus, but check the deal i got on it
http://www.internetishop.com/product_detail.asp?main_cat_no=&sub_cat_no=&item=SYS-FX-TA195...i actuall got it for 79$ plus $25 shipping

[rallynavvie]

Ouch, did you notice NewEgg has it for $63 with free shipping? Or are those CAD values?

The one thing that strikes me about this board is it is using SiS chipsets, not Intel ones. I know some folks have had problems with them akin to the old Via chipset troubles. That same site had some Intel 865 chipset boards that seemed a good value.

If you're stuck on using that one don't use the onboard RAID feature. I can only imagine what the ICH would do with that. I don't recommend the Precott P4s as they run hot as hell. If you have proper cooling that's one thing, but if you plan on overclocking at all be ready to get serious about cooling. Get the 3.2 non-extreme CPU that's still .13 process. You're also pretty limited on memory with only 2 DIMM slots so make it count.

What did you have planned for this board?

[SIRCOOKS]

im not denying its on newegss website, but the one i saw only had 3 pci slots, and not 5, you see, i need alot of frrom cause i do alot of upgrading all the time...can you link the url so i can look at what your talking abot

[Roundabout]

Here is the ATX version of the M-ATX board I have (Intel 865 chipset), I bought from PC Supply Source (they ship internationally too). This is also a Foxconn MoBo, but it even includes onboard Firewire & S-ATA. According to specs, uses "CPU:Socket 478 for Intel® Pentium®4 3GHz+ processors ( Prescott Ready )".

Not bad for the price...

LINK

[SIRCOOKS]

thats nice man, i still like my own though, i like yours because of your chipset type, those intels are really solid...where can i find some good mobo accesories for my foxconn...holla back

[rallynavvie]

That's a pretty good board. The Via 1394 chipset isn't as good as a TI controller but it's probably better than what most are using in PCI 1394 cards. It has Intel CSA GbE which is great. Plenty of USB 2.0 ports/headers, decent onboard audio, plenty of PCI slots, lots of room for memory, and a solid chipset. It also looks to have onboard video AND an AGP slot which is kinda handy. If you can get the two to work together you could use that onboard one for another display. Not bad at all for under $100.

[SIRCOOKS]

whose baord are u talking about, mine or his...holla back

[rallynavvie]

Recommendations:
3.2 GHz 800 FSB - whichever is the non-Prescott version
2x 512MB Mushkin PC3200 (any level is good from them)
400+ watt branded PSU like an Antec
latest video card like an X800 or 6800
Swiftech heatsink w/Stealth fan for your CPU
WD Raptor SATA hard drive, the 74GB one; that drive rules

All those parts on that board should make for a pretty damn fast system.

[Roundabout]

whose baord are u talking about, mine or his...holla back

I think Rallynavvie was talking about the Foxconn board that I put the link to, as the one you ordered doesn't have the onboard IEEE1394 (firewire) port on it. I think that board I mentioned is a great deal for an ATX mobo, at least at that price, because almost everything you need is already included right on the board itself.

However, since you already have a board, the recommendations that he gave you are for the board you have now (I think?) and you are pretty much unlimited as to what you want to do with the board, skies the limit on what you can spend...

I'm also avoiding the Prescott edition of the P4 for the same reasons he mentioned, esp. heat issues. I noticed that the Prescott chip sometimes sells for a couple of bucks less than its Northwood equivalent, telling me that people are not buying this Prescott chip as much. Fry's Electronics often sells them at cost or less, including a free mobo to entice people to buy them. Nonetheless, I'll be buying a P4 Northwood of either 3.0 or 3.2 Ghz, and I think next week Intel is coming out with new faster chips and the price should drop a little on the 3.0 Ghz and below (I think next Monday is when the new ones will be introduced, IIRC). The lowest price right now for P4 3.0 Northwood is about ~$220.00 and I'm hoping to get one for around $180.00 or so when the price drops. We'll see next week...

[rallynavvie]

Oh man, and I only spent 3 times that on my 3.06s

[Roundabout]

Oh man, and I only spent 3 times that on my 3.06s

ouch.

I just can't justify (or more importantly, afford) to spend more than $200.00 on a CPU, I'm trying to keep the entire cost of my new PC below ~ $450.00 total if possible, and that's pushing it.

What I have so far:

CaseEdge TW-1 MATX case w/350w PS ($35.00)
Foxconn MATX mobo 865M01-G-6ELS ($76.00)
Kingston 2x256 (512MB) KVR400ak2 PC3200 for Dual Channel ($90.00 a/r)
WD HDD 80GB 7200/8MB O/S drive ($40.00 a/r from Fry's)
Maxtor HDD 120GB 7200/8MB Cap drive ($49.00 a/r from BB on Black Friday last year)
Microadvantage 52x24x52 CD-RW saved from old PC ($0.00)

So I'm already up to around $300.00 - doesn't leave too much for the CPU, so that is why I'm waiting until next week and hoping for some price cuts by Intel when the faster CPU's come onto the market. I'm sure the price will come down some, by how much I have no idea. Whatever I can save, will be more I can spend for other things (Dual Layer burner, hopefully soon, if the price comes down enough).

[DVD_Ripper]

My 3 cents... I just built a box with a Foxconn MB... I had never heard of them prior to buying it. Did some queries and found they build oem versions for companies like Dell and some others. With that I was happy.

Put it together with P2G and 512M of memory... ran for a week burning hot running HOT CPU TESTER and encountered no errors.

Good MB Mfg.

[Roundabout]

DVD_Ripper,

Well, that's good to know that they make mobo's for other mfgrs. The case I bought is also made by Foxconn. Apparently they've been around a while, but because they were OEM no one really knew about them. We'll probably hear more in the future about this company.

On the other subject, I was researching the cost of P4's and came across an article about the newer ones, and that they (Intel) have a schedule for dropping the price on the "older" skt-478 versions (up to 3.4 Ghz). According to the site, they will be lowering the prices on June 27 (this Sunday), then there's supposed to be "massive" (according to them) price drops on all the older P4's on August 22. Now I don't know whether to wait until August to buy the P4 for my system, or just go with whatever price they're lowered to this coming Sunday. I guess it remains to be seen. Depends on how much they lower them!

My box is done except the CPU, ready to go. I'm just waiting for a good price and then I'm off and running.

[rallynavvie]

I think the reason for the price drop by Intel is due to the release of the Nocona core Xeons. I hadn't heard if P4 prices were dropping or if it was just the Xeons.

[Roundabout]

Rallynavvie,

I hope it's for the P4's as well, my budget would sure be happy!

Here's what I read on one website, though it's really not clear if the price drop is across the board or not:

In an attempt to provide end-users more performance with its Pentium 4 chips, Intel will reportedly bring processors with 2MB L2 cache and 1066MHz processor system bus in late 2004.

All Pentium 4 chips produced using 90nm fabrication process will be transited from D-0 to E-0 stepping, including products in mPGA478 and LGA775 form-factors as well as special versions of Pentium 4 processors for uni-processor servers and workstations with 64-bit capability enabled. However, only processors in LGA775 packaging will be able to benefit from SD and AAC technologies.

Initial samples of Intel Pentium 4 “Prescott” processors with E-0 stepping core will be available in June 2004, while commercial supplies are likely to start from the 1st of October, 2004. No information about official launch date of the new chips is revealed. Sources close to Intel said the company would release 3.60GHz and 3.80GHz processors for desktops in the second and the fourth quarters respectively. However, the product change notification contains no information about 3.80GHz processors. This may mean that the 3.80GHz chips will be available only in E-0 stepping or will not hit the ground by the 1st of October.

Though Intel never releases official dates for its announcements before publication, the information about release timeframes may be changed without preliminary notices. So here is some additional date for this coming summer:

* 1st of June, 2004. The first public discussion of i925X, i915P, i915G (formerly-known as Alderwood, Grantsdale) platforms’ peculiarities.
* 19th of June, 2004. Benchmarks, pricings NDA shift for i925X, i915P, i915G platforms.
* 20th of June, 2004. Intel Celeron D processor slated to be included into Intel’s price-list.
* 21st of June, 2004. i925X, i915P, i915G, Intel Pentium 4 processors in LGA775 packaging official launch, mainboards announcements, etc.
* 24th of June, 2004. Intel Celeron D chip officially debuts.
* 27th of June, 2004. Previous generation chipsets price drops.
* 27th of June, 2004. Intel Xeon “Nocona” processor with EM64T announcement.
* 27th of June, 2004. Intel E7525 (workstation chipset for 64-bit Xeon chips) official launch.
* 18th of July, 2004. Price slash of Intel Pentium 4 520 processor (LGA775, 2.80GHz, 800MHz Quad Pumped Bus).
* 18th of July, 2004. Mobile microprocessors price slash.
* 1st of August, 2004. Announcement of Intel Pentium 4 processors with 64-bit capabilities.
* 22nd of August, 2004. Massive price drop on Intel’s desktop and laptop processors.
* Q3 2004. Revamped i925X – i925XE – product launch.
* Q3 2004. Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition with 1066MHz PSB and 2MB L3 cache release.
* Q3 2004. Intel Celeron D 340 processor (2.93GHz) slated for launch.
* Q3 2004. Intel Itanium 2 “Madison 9M” introduction.
* Q3 2004. Intel E7520, E7320 chipsets announcements.

So lower prices are ahead, but there's no way of knowing exactly how much. With all the new mobo chipsets and CPU's coming out, it only leads to more confusion (and obsolescence) as far as I'm concerned. Seems the 865 chipset mobo I just bought is already outdated, before I even begin to use it with the 915 and 925 chipset being the latest...

And with the LGA775 chip, I guess the skt478 is on it's way out. Geez, this is getting harder all the time. Anyway, all I want is a decent price on a 2.8/512/800fsb or 3.0/512/800fsb Northwood. Still waiting, now looks like at least this Sunday before any real price drop is taken (if it happens at all, that is).

[rallynavvie]

I was actually waiting to finish my current system until these price drops came about but then my other mainboard went and I had to get this one up and running quick. If I see price drops of greater than $100 per Xeon that I bought I'm going to be very bitter that the Tyan didn't hold on for at least a few more weeks, especially since I bought them on eBay so there's no warranty with them

So I've decided to OC the crizzap out of them. Other DH800 owners are getting 3.6 and 1066 on M0 2.4 Xeons so I think 3.2 and 800 out of my 3.06 D1s should be easily attainable. I've already got memory that is more than adequate for the task. Either way I'm planning on upgrading to Noconas later this year after they've seen some use and see what people think of them. My board was the first with support for those processors and it'll be one of the last with AGP. Upcoming chipsets are going to PCI-E for graphics which looks to be a very great step forward, however shutting out older technology.

[Roundabout]

Must be nice to have extra cash for those Xeon's...

What happened to your mobo? I thought Tyan had a pretty good rep, I've never heard anything bad about them. I don't know what Tyan's policy is, but I do know in the case of MSI, you don't need a receipt to get a warranty. They go strictly by the manufacture date on the board (three yrs from that date) regardless of when/where you purchased the board. Did the board fry, or what happened? OC'd a bit too much/too long, maybe?

So AGP is gone soon, too? What's next? PCI? Everything's outdated now, it seems.

I've never bought any PC parts on Ebay, I don't trust the sellers, even if they state "new". I know of others that have had bad experiences with stuff bought off there, and I've never been able to get very good prices there anyway. I noticed today that PCSupplysource (where I got my mobo) raised the price of the one I bought by $5.00 (from $76.00 up to $81.00). You'd think the price should be coming down on this stuff...

[rallynavvie]

They Tyan was never overclocked and never run out of spec. It had a 500w PSU and dual 1900s on it but the 5v lines on the ATX power connector fried nonetheless. It has been a known problem for a while with that board, but usually only happens to overclockers. Fortunately I still have the receipt from the reseller (now out of biz) so Tyan has accepted the RMA themselves. I just sent the board out yesterday so I should have a new one in a week or two. I heard that some people aren't getting back 2460s but 2466 boards, the later revision. If I get back a model with onboard U160 RAID I'm going to wet myself, but I can only dream. I still need to get a new power supply though and hope my CPUs weren't hurt when I lost the board. When I get it back I'm stuffing the Lian Li case it was in full of U160 drives and putting a SCSI RAID card in there and turning it into a nice little fileserver/game server. New PSU will set me back $100, it's the RAID card that I'm worried about.

BTW you can put together a good 2.8 Xeon system for about $1700-2000. I highly recommend these WD Raptor 74GB SATA drives. Mine seems to work really well as a boot drive.

[Roundabout]

Geez, a 500w PSU fried - what kind of current are we talking about here if the connector could melt? I guess under very high current conditions, if there were any resistance at all in the connection (moisture, corrosion, not tight enough connection, etc.) it could get hot, but DAMN! The connector melted? Next time, cut the connector off and solder the wires directly to the board...(j/k )

At least Tyan is willing to do something for you, that's a good recommedation for them, and I've heard that they are good about taking care of customer issues. Well, if you get lucky and get an updated mobo with onboard RAID, so much the better. Maybe they've discontinued the older mobo's and automatically replace them with the better ones. Or, since you said it's a known issue, they do it to prevent reoccurence.

Nice thought about the 2.8 Xeon system. Sure, someday I could afford to spend that kind of money... wife would kill me now if I were to go out and spend $2000 on a new PC - I'm lucky to be able to afford something under $500 at the moment. Check back with me in a year or two on those Xeon's

EDIT: You can get a Viomax 500w ATX PSU w/dual fans for $20.00 with free shipping (if this meets your needs) from here: LINK