DVD's w/ "LAY" Files?

[Madz]

Got this Indy Film DVD (Region 1-6) I'm trying to backup w/ DVDDecrypter. I'm not sure if the disk is encrypted or not cuz it causes DD to continously crack the CSS key and then hang at 99% completion in ISO mode. This disk has two *.LAY files in the VIDEO_TS folder which I've never seen. Guessing maybe that's the reason? The files are: GBNF.LAY & VOB_DATA.LAY; they're both some sort of binary files since they show gibberish in Notepad.

This is part of the log I get upon loading the disk:

W 06:32:59 Cracking Disc Key... (00 00 00 00 00) (Note: This can take a long time!)
W 06:33:10 Possible Disc Key: FA 71 DF 21 D3
W 06:33:10 Using Disc Key: FA 71 DF 21 D3

Any ideas?

[lordsmurf]

These are layout files generated by SpruceUp

[Madz]

Thanx for the info. Looks like the disk insn't encrypted since I can view the contents in Windows Explorer on either of my computers w/o opening any playback software. Any ideas then on how to make an ISO from it? DVDDecrypter is obviously getting confused and WinISO won't work, either.

[Faustus]

If DVD DEcrypter cannot skip over them when making an ISO then I suggest ripping it in file mode, then adding an audio_ts folder and using a program to turn it into an ISO. It should be fine that way.