dvd ntsc-pal

[vanderbog]

Hi guys,
I just have a question that bothers me:
is a dvd player from north-america (ntsc system) able to play a pal dvd on a pal tv ? Does it matter from where you buy it or the only thing that matters is the system of the dvd you feed in ?
Please make this clear for me

[Dimmer]

Officially, no. Region 1 players are not meant to be PAL-compatible.

However, in fact many of the cheapest no-name DVD players sold in North America are manufactured in China for the entire world. You can often find either a secret menu or a firmware patch that would unlock their full potential. Search this site to find out details about specific models.

[vanderbog]

Thanks ! How about a .jpg cd, do you think it will be able to be watched on a pal tv by a dvd player from the american soil ?

[Dimmer]

That depends on the model. Not every player can play jpg discs.

What are you trying to do, bring a player from North America elsewhere? First thing you need to check is a required power source. The models you should look at must say on the back panel "110V - 220V, 50Hz - 60Hz."

[ofbarea]

Hi, I live in a NTSC country, but with the help of my APEX AD-5132 I’ve been able to convert NTSC home movies to PAL.

This dvd player does slide shows of JPEG burned CDs.

[vanderbog]

Hi guys, thanks for replying.
So, what I'm trying to do:
-I live in Canada (NTSC) and I want to send to someone in Europe (PAL) a dvd player from here, to be able to play .jpg cd's and dvd's created here by me in PAL system. 110/220 is not a problem because they have a power adaptor already for some other electronics from here.
So the mistery is whether the dvd will output PAL since the dvd is written PAL, or if it's somehow restricted to North America, NTSC output. About the .jpg cd's I'm almost sure that the player will output ok on the PAL tv because it has nothing to do with the frame size and frequency of the frames (NTSC vs. PAL).
Mystery, eh ?

[ofbarea]

My APEX AD-5132 (I boght this in AZ) will convert the output of any PAL or NTSC into PAL or NTSC signal. There are some other DVD (especially cheap ones) with this capability.

All you have to do is to choose the output format with the remote control. I have tested this and my Apex can convert NTSC DVDs to PAL.

[Chemcat]

You just need what is called a multisystem player that can do NTSC>PAL or PAL>NTSC conversion on the fly. Look over in the DVD Players on the left and in the criteria check the box for multisystem and it'll bring up a bunch of players that can do this. I will never buy a player that doesn't have this functionality.

[lenti_75]

ALL the players can read ANY system IF is unlocked.....
ALL the players do this PAL IN -> PAL OUT, NTSC IN -> NTSC OUT
some of them can to the conversion between the systems on the fly, but not all.
the ideea is that, what you put in, that is what they spit out.....

the easiest players to unlock, are Cyberhome300, and Philips 642. these 2 can do the conversion, and Cyberhome even has 110-220 power supply, so no adapter neeeded.

i got a Cyberhome, at bestbuy for 40, and is awsome, just to send it to europe.....and has jpg

[Dimmer]

Hi guys, thanks for replying.
So, what I'm trying to do:
-I live in Canada (NTSC) and I want to send to someone in Europe (PAL) a dvd player from here, to be able to play .jpg cd's and dvd's created here by me in PAL system. 110/220 is not a problem because they have a power adaptor already for some other electronics from here.
So the mistery is whether the dvd will output PAL since the dvd is written PAL, or if it's somehow restricted to North America, NTSC output. About the .jpg cd's I'm almost sure that the player will output ok on the PAL tv because it has nothing to do with the frame size and frequency of the frames (NTSC vs. PAL).
Mystery, eh ?

No mystery at all. If player is designed to play PAL, it'll play it. 110/220 is not simply a power source nuisance but a sign that it's an "international" player. Since you're making the DVD yourself, don't worry about the region protection. With JPEG discs just ensure that the player has that capability, which has nothing to do with PAL/NTSC, and you'll be fine. The deal is that in North America they don't advertise on the player's box such things as "multizone" or "PAL-capable" player to avoid legal issues since. You have to check player capabilities through "informal" sources such as Internet.

ALL the players can read ANY system IF is unlocked.....
ALL the players do this PAL IN -> PAL OUT, NTSC IN -> NTSC OUT
some of them can to the conversion between the systems on the fly, but not all.
the ideea is that, what you put in, that is what they spit out.....

Sorry to disappoint you, but that's not true. You might have gotten this idea if you lived in Europe. Major brands such as Sony don't include any PAL circuitry in many of their R1 players, so they won't even recognize a PAL DVD. "Unlocking" such a player would cost more than buying a new no-name one. I had two different R1 Sony players myself, and believe me, I looked into this very closely.

[lenti_75]

[quote="Dimmer"]

Sorry to disappoint you, but that's not true. You might have gotten this idea if you lived in Europe. Major brands such as Sony don't include any PAL circuitry in many of their R1 players, so they won't even recognize a PAL DVD. "Unlocking" such a player would cost more than buying a new no-name one. I had two different R1 Sony players myself, and believe me, I looked into this very closely.

you sure need A LOT of readings.....
Sony CAN read PAL, if is UNLOCKED....read carefully. I have a Sony, and don't even bother to unlock it, that's why i got a Cyberhome.
they are just locked, that's it, no big deal, but thay CAN read pal. there is no difference between R1 and Rx....just the locking problem.

[Dimmer]

Sony CAN read PAL, if is UNLOCKED....read carefully. I have a Sony, and don't even bother to unlock it, that's why i got a Cyberhome.
they are just locked, that's it, no big deal, but thay CAN read pal. there is no difference between R1 and Rx....just the locking problem.

Okay, let's not argue about that, but if you can unlock your R1 Sony without hardware modifications, please by all means let me and everybody know; I would really appreciate that. And I totally agree there is no difference between R1 and Rx, although NTSC and PAL are slightly different. Perhaps, Sony purposely limits their players' capabilities in order to sell more and being sued less.

[vanderbog]

Thanks guys !
Now, lenti, I've seen the CyberHome300 on BestBuy, but you are saying that it needs to be unlocked to be able to see PAL dvd's ? How do you do that ? Or is the Pal-in->Pal-out working straight ?
I don't need no convertion from NTSC to PAL or back, I just need to play dvd's created by me in PAL, on a PAL tv in Europe, so if PAL-In -> PAL-OUT works and plus it has 110/220 built-in...I'm all set