PAL/NTSC VCR outputting PAL even with output is NTSC

[axolotls]

A curious question for those who understand PAL/NTSC/SECAM standards.

I have a multiregion VCR that I can play PAL tapes on and it converts to NTSC so I can wire the analogs from the multiregion VCR to an NTSC VCR to convert tapes.

However, when I output to a capture card, the computer still interprets the signal as PAL, even though I flip the switch on the multiregion VCR to NTSC output.

Why is this?

[leon_g]

Check the capture software settings. I did the same thing and it works fine. But the method itself is VERY bad. There is a huge quality loss. A proper way of doing this is to capture as PAL and convert to NTSC using the converting software, like procoder or tmpgenc.

[axolotls]

I was thinking of going straight PAL then converting to NTSC. But, these are video tapes (not films) and not sure if converting PAL -> NTSC will look good at all.

I know for a fact that PAL DVD -> NTSC DVD is a boorish task, but if PAL VHS -> NTSC DVD is not then I'll do it that way.

Also, I tell the multiregion VCR to output NTSC analog, but my capture software only recognizes that signal as PAL.

I just don't want to make PAL DVDs out of PAL VHSs, and want to start off right.

Thanks!!! :P

[axolotls]

[hech54]

A multi region VCR is not the same as a "converting" VCR. Converting VCR's are quite expensive and a little hard to come by....especially in the U.S. I'm guessing the output signal put out by your VCR is not a "true" NTSC signal.
This is the converting VCR that I own:
http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Aiwa_HV_MX100

[FulciLives]

Capture native format then convert. There are guides on how to do it. You will probably need to use Xesdeeni's INTERLACED PAL to INTERLACED NTSC method which requires using AviSynth version 2.08

Link:

http://www.geocities.com/xesdeeni2001/StandardsConversion/index.html

Good Luck !!!

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
Be sure to capture AVI format with HuffyUV or PICVideo MJPEG ... in short do not capture direct to MPEG-2

[axolotls]

A multi region VCR is not the same as a "converting" VCR. Converting VCR's are quite expensive and a little hard to come by....especially in the U.S. I'm guessing the output signal put out by your VCR is not a "true" NTSC signal.
This is the converting VCR that I own:
http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Aiwa_HV_MX100

It has to be a converting VCR. Because I can put a PAL VHS into it, select NTSC as output and RCA the buggers to a regular good 'ol NTSC VCR and make an NTSC tape that I can pass around to all the neighbors (I am in the U.S.!

[axolotls]

Capture native format then convert.

http://www.geocities.com/xesdeeni2001/StandardsConversion/index.html

Good Luck !!!

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Thanks. I will capture native PAL unless there is a reason to let the VCR convert it for me, which I can't seem to get "right" as in my OP.

I was thinking of using an NTSC VCR as a pass through to the computer to see if it then would take the NTSC signal. But, I figured the shortest distance to quality is the shortest path.

No big deal, I have to open up the computer anyways to pull a drive out, so I can switch the card to PAL setting.

:P

[axolotls]

Ulead VS7 is a PITA. Is there any other DV capturing program with a PAL template. (WINDV, SCENALYZER ETC)?