IfoEdit/DVD Shrink and the 0KB .VOB File

[wolv6769]

Whenever I've tried to edit an .ifo file, with a .VOB file size of 0kb, using IfoEdit, everything seems to work out fine until I try to burn, at which point NERO tells me the file is missing.

Example:

VTS_02_0 0 KB VOB File

The original file size is 0kb, so if I rip and burn without making changes it works fine, no problems. When I modify the .ifo file that's when I have the problems.

What seems to happen, when I transcode the file with DVD Shrink, it does not pick up the 0kb .VOB file.

I use DVD Decrypter, to rip, IfoEdit to remove what I don't want, DVD Shrink to Transcode, and Nero to Burn.

Has anyone else come across this? Any solutions?

[mazinz]

well are you sure its even ripping the ifo file? Having a file that is 0 means literally that nothing is there. if you ever made a dummy folder, that is 0k in size. The smallest i have ever seen ifo files were at least 12k. Just makes me suspect that something is not being done correctly because it should not be making ifofiles 0k in size

[wolv6769]

Yes, I'm sure. Even with the 0kb file present, I have been able to do a straight back up, with no changes. I've only come across this a few times currently it's, The Fugitive, director's cut.

[trossin]

Do you see BUP files? If so, just copy the .BUP files and change the extention to IFO. The BUP files are back ups of the IFO files and are on the disk in case the IFO file is trashed. The unofficial spec says that a disk must have IFO and BUP files so that if the IFO file can not be read the player can try the BUP file.

If you don't see the BUP files make sure you do a full disk extract with DVD Decrypter. I know that RecordNow Max will not burn a DVD if you don't have both the IFO and BUP files if you ask it to verify the source material is DVD compliant.

[wolv6769]

I'm sorry I tried doing this from memory, at work. It's not the .ifo file that has a file size of 0 KB, it's a .VOB file.

Example: VTS_02_0 0 KB VOB File

[FOO]

Are you for real ?
There are no 0 size files on a DVD
Your rip failed. Fix that

[DoubleShadowIce]

Are you for real ?
There are no 0 size files on a DVD
Your rip failed. Fix that

You just lost your 1 million dollar bet! There are alot of DVDs that have 0 KB menu VOBs. Scooby Doo's Spookiest Tales R1 is a good example. Though the VOB is showing 0 KB, there are commands present in the menu's PGC command table that is needed for the DVD structure to be valid. DVD Decrypter or any ripper will rip the VOB but Nero will give you an error on reallocation problems on files that are less than 2 KB.

@wolv6769

It would helpful if you mention what DVD you are working on and what region is it.

[FOO]

If you say so. I've never seen one in several hundred DVDs

Probably because I can't stand stuff like Scoop of Poo

[MackemX]

FOO, try checking the Matrix DVD and I guess I'll take a quote from that same film

Welcome to the 'Real' world

p.s. at least you have calmed down a little and ain't as rude as usual

[MackemX]

oops, I forgot the solution

try copying the 0kb into the destination folder after it's all processed with DVDShrink. Open an IFO with Ifoedit and click Get VTS. This should correct the IFO and just ignore Nero

if you burn without the file then some fussy players will refuse to play it. If you put it in then it should work on most as this was an issue I came across with The Matrix DVD last year when testing

@DoubleShadowIce, Hi mate . wolv6769 mentions it's the The Fugitive, director's cut but not the region

@all

all 3 DVD's (Scooby, Fugitive & Matrix) are Warner by the way so it's probably their way of authoring some DVD's. A bit like the huge Universal dummy VOB's which ain't referenced in the IFO's

[FOO]

Hey Mackem , eat shit

[MackemX]

FOO, that's the FOO I know and love to hate

sadly you still seem to be another 'I know more than you so I can have a shitty attitude and I have the right to be be rude to people but please don't do the same to me' person

even funnier is when the wise asses are wrong, rather than admit it they get upset when someone has a laugh at THEIR expense

think long and hard about how you feel about my posts and maybe you will get a taste of what some of your posts mean to people with your wise cracks

solution = if you can't take it, don't give it

[DoubleShadowIce]

Hey Mackem , eat shit

I just couldn't help myself but this reply made me think for awhile. You mentioned for MackemX to "eat shit" and you also say that your location is at "Uranus". It kinda translated to me as "Eat FOO". Sorry! I guess I'm just feeling silly for a Friday night. :P

[dimad]

The original file size is 0kb, so if I rip and burn without making changes it works fine, no problems.

Let me guess: you don't use Nero in this case.
It seams that having 0 sized vob files is perfectly legal - quite a lot of professionaly authored disks have them. It is just a Nero's problem.

What you can do is simply find some small vob rename it to the name of 0 sized vob and copy over. When you done with all such vobs - just use GetVTS sectors in EfoEdit. What a pain.

It is much easier to forget about Nero and use ImgTools.

[wolv6769]

MackemX, thanks for your help, it worked.

@dimad,

I can't forget about Nero, it was the one and only tool that let me back up PS games, back in the days. I have to be faithful, but I will keep ImgTools in mind.

It just seems to me burning with Nero is safer, with regards to compatibility. No one has ever had a problem viewing anything I burn.