software to stop overscan with dvd backup

[randycandy]

I have been using DVD Shrink but it cuts off the edges of my movies. The "overscan" problem. I am sorry but I can't find a solution to this problem. Are there any guides on how to make backups of my DVD's without the overscan problem? Like what is the simplest way to do it? Which software? I don't have very much experience with DVD backup software/burning so be as explicit as possible. Thanks for any help!

[FulciLives]

I have been using DVD Shrink but it cuts off the edges of my movies. The "overscan" problem. I am sorry but I can't find a solution to this problem. Are there any guides on how to make backups of my DVD's without the overscan problem? Like what is the simplest way to do it? Which software? I don't have very much experience with DVD backup software/burning so be as explicit as possible. Thanks for any help!

Well just about all normal televisions have overscan. At least TUBE TV's do as do REAR PROJECTION. I don't have nor do I know anyone that has PLASMA but I think that most PLASMA displays have either none or at least very little overscan. Maybe someone with more knowledge on PLASMA screens could chime in on that.

As for DVDShrink it is making a copy of your DVD in such a way that the copy should have the same amount of overscan as the original DVD so just to clearify the problem isn't with DVDShrink.

You can re-encode your DVD movies to account for overscan but that seems like a "drastic" move. This would require using a "real" encoder ala TMPGEnc or CINEMA CRAFT ENCODER or MAINCONCEPT MPEG ENCODER etc.

This is a slow process ... much slower than a "transcoder" such as DVDShrink or DVD2ONE etc.

If you are interested in doing that then take a look at FitCD

However ...

The other solution is to buy a DVD player that can account for the overscan.

One such DVD player is the Malata DVP-520 which can be purchased from HK FLIX a quality on-line business well known for specializing in imported DVD discs and special DVD players to accomodate such content.

Here is a description of a feature on the Malata DVP-520 that you will find most interesting:

Eliminate Overscan & Correct PAL-NTSC Aspect Ratio Problems
The Malata DVP-520 is the only DVD player on the market today that has X-Y scaling capability. This feature basically lets you adjust the aspect ratio, picture size, and position of the image on your television down to the pixel. The most important use of this feature is its ability to eliminate overscan. Overscan is the portion of the image that is not visible on your television because it extends beyond the viewable area. On many TVs, you're missing a significant portion of the image due to overscan. Using the X-Y scaling feature of the Malata, you can "pull back" until the entire image is viewable.

This player is also well known for being REGION FREE and being able to convert PAL DVD discs to NTSC output with excellence.

The price may be a bit steep at $329.95 but it is an excellent DVD player and the only model I know of that has the X-Y scaling feature. Some other DVD players (most notably JVC) use the same chipset but choose NOT to activate the X-Y scaling making the Malata DVP-520 rather unique.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[randycandy]

"As for DVDShrink it is making a copy of your DVD in such a way that the copy should have the same amount of overscan as the original DVD so just to clearify the problem isn't with DVDShrink."

actually I did use DVD Shrink and it did produce overscaned dvd backups. I used DVD Shrink on a movie and then put this disc in my DVD player and letters in the title were cut in half. Maybe it's Nero that makes it do this? Or is that the way DVD Shrink does it? and if so then is there a way to make DVD Shrink compensate for "overscan"? And if not is there another way to fix it?[/quote]

[FulciLives]

"As for DVDShrink it is making a copy of your DVD in such a way that the copy should have the same amount of overscan as the original DVD so just to clearify the problem isn't with DVDShrink."

actually I did use DVD Shrink and it did produce overscaned dvd backups. I used DVD Shrink on a movie and then put this disc in my DVD player and letters in the title were cut in half. Maybe it's Nero that makes it do this? Or is that the way DVD Shrink does it? and if so then is there a way to make DVD Shrink compensate for "overscan"? And if not is there another way to fix it?

Let me emphasize what I said earlier ... DVDShrink makes a back-up DVD that has the EXACT same IMAGE SIZE as the original.

So the DVDShrink made back-up should not have any more or any less overscan than the original DVD

So are you trying to say that when you compare the original with the DVDShrink version that the DVDShrink version has MORE overscan?

If you are using the same DVD player on the same TV display then they should match.

Try it if you haven't.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
No you cannot make DVDShrink compensate for overscan if you could I would have said ... I told you the only two ways to do it.

[lordsmurf]

As Fulci says, it's NOT possible (meaning IMPOSSIBLE) for SHRINK to cause that.

[randycandy]

How can it be impossible if I have shown it to be possible? I used it to make a backup and the original plays fine and the backup has the "overscan" problem! So if it's not DVD Shrink then maybe it's Nero 6. because doesn't DVD Shrink use Nero if I have it?

[FulciLives]

How can it be impossible if I have shown it to be possible? I used it to make a backup and the original plays fine and the backup has the "overscan" problem! So if it's not DVD Shrink then maybe it's Nero 6. because doesn't DVD Shrink use Nero if I have it?

Did you compare both (the original and the DVDShrink back) on the SAME television.

You do realize that a computer monitor does NOT have overscan so I'm thinking maybe you were comparing the original (as it looks on the computer screen) vs the DVDShrink copy (as it looks on the TV).

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[randycandy]

Same dvd player, same TV. Put orignal disc in, did not overscan. put backup disc in, overscan. This is what I'm saying.

[holistic]

Looks like someone is getting schooled

:P

[johns0]

Try playing the vob files on the computer before they are shrunk (DVDDecryptor)and then play the vob files after they are shrunk and see if dvdshrink did the altering before you burn the files.

[FulciLives]

Well I have very few DVDShrink back-ups as I prefer to use DVD2ONE most of the time but I think I have a couple I can double check but I never noticed it nor have I ever heard anyone mention it before.

BTW what version of DVDShrink are you using?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[randycandy]

I am going to be a man and admit that I was wrong. I checked the original and it was overscanned too. I never noticed it before. I am sorry I wasted everyone's time and thank you for your help!

[FulciLives]

I am going to be a man and admit that I was wrong. I checked the original and it was overscanned too. I never noticed it before. I am sorry I wasted everyone's time and thank you for your help!

Well hey these things happen

- John "FulciLives" Coleman