i backed up without decrypting

[zak_swan]

just as an experiment i tried to back up an original onto dvd-r without decrypting.

i saved movie onto hard drive then burned with nero and it worked!
is it because it's an old movie?

why do we have to decrypt anyway? i've tried researching it but all i can figure out is original dvds have a code on part of dvd that can't be copied to harddrive and dvd player requires this code.

can someone explain to me about decrypting or direct me to somewhere that explains it?

[Red96TA]

What did you use to transfer the dvd to your HDD? If you used a number of dvd rippers out there, it decrypted it for you.

And, FWIW, some dvd's don't have encryption...like mine for example

most do, some don't....use your ripper on all of them anyway...it's just easier.

[lostbee]

Or did u play the dvd just beffore u ripped to your H-drive?? coz that takes away the encription 2

[lordsmurf]

Or did u play the dvd just beffore u ripped to your H-drive?? coz that takes away the encription 2

What are you talking about?

[zak_swan]

i've checked the dvd with dvd decrypter and it had no copyright protection even thought it is an original. (probably coz it's cheap old piece of crap)

i just copied video ts folder straight from dvd to hard drive then burned.

so that's that mystery solved but i want to learn more about how the protection system works so has anyone got good links on subject?

[zak_swan]

i've been checking out sites and trying to figure out how CCS prevents u from simply copying a DVD and i've still not worked it out.

sometimes someone can sum up in a few sentences what 10 hours of research does'nt.

so can someone in laymans terms explain to me how the Content Scrambling System works?
how does the PC unscramble the DVD to play it but not to copy it?
how does the DVD prevent itself from being copied without being decrypted first?

[glockjs]

not all dvd's are protected. some companies are too cheap to pay for the protection.

[SLK001]

i've been checking out sites and trying to figure out how CCS prevents u from simply copying a DVD and i've still not worked it out.

sometimes someone can sum up in a few sentences what 10 hours of research doesn't.

CSS doesn't prevent you from simply copying a DVD to your harddisk (Explorer can readily do this). However, without the CSS key, you cannot decode the video to view, so all you will have is garbage. All recordable media (and I do mean all) do not have the capability of writing the CSS key in the correct place on the DVD. This area is physically embossed out (you can see the area as a thin ring very close to the inner edge on a blank disc).

Also, you will find that your porn discs usually do not have CSS encoding. This is why they would play okay after you copied them to your HD.

[zak_swan]

execllent reply i had been looking for the solution all night

however they were not porn (honestly)

but i do have a large collection of them

iv'e still got a few more questions on the subject but i seriously think im getting into this stuff too much for my health.

it's either that or the hash and bear that's making me tired

[zak_swan]

and forgot to ask. how do u know porn discs dont have CSS? lol

and i did mean bear not beer i was fighting one while smokin a joint

[duhmez]

@ SLK001

Why do you want us to nuke J P Taravella highschool in miami?

[SLK001]

and forgot to ask. how do u know porn discs dont have CSS? lol

and i did mean bear not beer i was fighting one while smokin a joint

How do I know? I have... I mean... my neighbor has a lot of porn discs!

[soneman]

From my expieriences, all DVD's produced by video companies from 2002 ONWARDS have some sort of macrovision copy protection on there. Some DVD's produced BEFORE 2002 have copy protection but most do not. All DVD's produced BEFORE 2000 have no copy protection on there whatsoever. Obviously because DVD's were relatively new back then and people weren't tryna copy them like people do now.

[duhmez]

From my expieriences, all DVD's produced by video companies from 2002 ONWARDS have some sort of macrovision copy protection on there. Some DVD's produced BEFORE 2002 have copy protection but most do not. All DVD's produced BEFORE 2000 have no copy protection on there whatsoever. Obviously because DVD's were relatively new back then and people weren't tryna copy them like people do now.

this is totally smegging wrong. CSS was invented for DVD right from the getgo. Any producers who wanted to use it could and can and did.

[lostbee]

Lordsmurf i found if its a copyrighted dvd, ( back in the old days beffore i discovered dvd decriptor or dvd shrink) i used to play the dvd then pause it, found out that it took off the encription and was able to rip it fine

[au7usa]

I was surprized when i discovered that "Night of the Living Dead" doesn't have any copy protection.

Of course the quality of the original is prett crappy!

[Defcon]

@ SLK001

Why do you want us to nuke J P Taravella highschool in miami?

J.P. Taravella is in Coral Springs...... Good Coordinance SLK001

[SLK001]

Actually, Taravella is just in the vicinity of these coordinates. But then, nuclear warfare is just like horseshoes... you only have to get close!

[zak_swan]

almost understand but when DVD is on harddrive is it possible to burn, but it won't play on player cause it's scrambled or will it just not burn at all?

[bugster]

almost understand but when DVD is on harddrive is it possible to burn, but it won't play on player cause it's scrambled or will it just not burn at all?

It will burn. After all its only digital data. But it won't play in any standalone (assuming its an encrypted DVD that is).


Macrovision is completley different to CSS. Macrovision is applied to the analog output signal of DVD players to prevent this signal being recorded correctly by a VCR. On the DVD there is simply a falg that tells the player to add the macrovision signal (or not). Movie companies pay a license fee just to have this flag set. Some mainstream movies are not including it anymore because of this cost.

[zak_swan]

why on earth would anyone want to put a DVD onto a VCR tape?

[duhmez]

why on earth would anyone want to put a DVD onto a VCR tape?

My Mom or Dad wants to watch a dvd I own, and all they have is a VHS.

[zak_swan]

well buy them a DVD player! have u seen how cheap they are?

it's strange some dvd's are £20 and a dvd player is £30

must be a conspiracy

[soneman]

True! I bought my multi-region DVD player from amazon.co.uk for £35.

[glockjs]

it's funny it seems like blank vhs tapes are more expensive that dvdr's these days. buying a vhs tape is kinda like goin in and buying mac software, very quietly without trying to be heard or seen...pssst, excuse me where do u keep the mac software.