DVD Backup disappointment

[zorankarapancev]

I give up! For about one week I was trying to convert a Region 2 movie from Europe to Region 0 or Region 1 in order that it can be watched in Canada. But I didn't have any succes. I was using a DVD Backup, DVD2One, VLC and Apple Superdrive.
I didn't have any problem converting from Region 1 to Region 0.

Any suggestions? Any other good converting software for Mac? Do I have to buy a PC?

Help!

[galactica]

what happened when you burned it?
did it not play for the person in canada?

most likely its the RCE protection that has been noted lots on here... and as i have dealt with once.

Apparently dvd backup does not remove all forms of protection thus making it not "truly" region free

if the other person tries to play the disk in a settop player this will be noted.
Yet if they play it in a PC it will work fine.

I only found that when you use IFO Edit and click REMOVE RCE it will work. but that requires VPC

do you have that?

[zorankarapancev]

Can you tell me more about VPC, galactica?

[WiseWeasel]

VPC (VirtualPC), now owned by Microsoft, is an emulator for PC hardware that lets you run Windows and other PC operating systems on your Mac. It's incompatible with the G5 (until version 7 comes out in the Spring), and rather slow on G4s, but it allows you to use those few apps that you really need that aren't available for the Mac. There's also another program that will be out in the next couple days that should rip DVDs more effectively than DVD Backup and OSEx, no matter what region they're in. Hopefully, that will solve your problem.

[SERBIAN]

...and...Dont buy PC...

[galactica]

There's also another program that will be out in the next couple days that should rip DVDs more effectively than DVD Backup and OSEx, no matter what region they're in.

tell more please....
this is new info to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WiseWeasel]

tell more please....
this is new info to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I can't tell you much about it, except that is's based on dvdbackup, an open-sourced CLI program part of the DVDCreate project for linux. It will be a simple interface that launches the program in the terminal with the correct commands. I am only involved peripherally in the development, and will be distributing it myself (along with the greatly appreciated help of anyone else who can help host this - preferably elsewhere than in the US). The developer will remain anonymous for obvious reasons. It's nearing completion; we're just ironing out a few big bugs before we start distributing it. If all goes well (have patience if it doesn't), it should reach an acceptable state within the next couple days. I will release here first, and keep it underground (as in away from VersionTracker, and limited to P2P and message boards) until we get some good offshore hosts for it. In case anyone was wondering, Lupin's shenanigans with DVDBackup and DVD2One were the driving force behind the development for this alternative.

[galactica]

I LOVE YOU Nameless, Faceless Person

i think we all do............

well you get the idea

[WiseWeasel]

Hey, don't thank me, thank the nameless, faceless person who made this all possible!

[galactica]

see edit above.

[gilgamesh]

I give up! For about one week I was trying to convert a Region 2 movie from Europe to Region 0 or Region 1 in order that it can be watched in Canada. But I didn't have any succes. I was using a DVD Backup, DVD2One, VLC and Apple Superdrive.
I didn't have any problem converting from Region 1 to Region 0.

Any suggestions? Any other good converting software for Mac? Do I have to buy a PC?

Help!

I used to have a similar problem. The new ripper Hades solved it.
Hades is a great ripper w/ an interesting name.
More on this:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=199239

[zorankarapancev]

gilgamesh, I tried this new software today and it didn't work!
It didn't change a Region 2 DVD to a Region 0.

[qshartle]

what dvd is it? the name. I have a ton of japanese region 2 discs, and most will not change, unless i do the ifoedit(which i think is a bitch).

Q

[zorankarapancev]

Finally someone who understands my frustration!
The movie is "No Man's Land".

[qshartle]

Yeah, I have that one, good movie. I tried to make it region free, first with Dvdbackup...no luck, then OSEx.....no luck, then with Hades....no luck. I opened up VPC(BLAH! :P ) and opened ifoedit, and changed the RCE by hitting the "Region Free" button. I finally got the dvd to work, but it isnt a fun process while doing it. I reccomend investing in VPC, unless they come out with a mac version(hope and wish and hope and wish). Other than that, its frustrating. Are you in Japan? If so where?
I am moving there in March. And i cant wait to get there.

Q

[galactica]

its only just now been released so i cant test it........... but maybe Hades will work better with really removing region / rce protection!?!?!

give her a try

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=199239

[TugBoat]

I tried it, doesn't appear to remove RCE. From the Hades thread;

It appears that Hades doesn't remove RCE checking. I'm far from being an expert at this and just recently became aware of RCE. I tested Hades with MIB II (region 1), a known RCE enabled disc, and found that Info Edit 0.95 (in VPC) identified 'RCE Checking Present' in the results from Hades. I tested a few non-enabled discs and even found a few more RCE enabled Disc (Broken Arrow & X-Men 2, both Region 1). It's a shame Hades doesn't remove RCE. It looks like the easiest way to remove it is to run Info Edit in VPC after ripping the disc with Hades. I'm not sure about zorankarapancev's problem as I believe RCE is only encoded onto a Region 1 disc. Otherwise Hades appears to work fine and Rip times are about the same as DVDBackup. If anyone has any up-to-date info or more enlightened info on RCE, I'd appreciate seeing it.

[gilgamesh]

gilgamesh, I tried this new software today and it didn't work!
It didn't change a Region 2 DVD to a Region 0.

I realized that Hades did not remove region code after burning a dvd-r.
dvd player asked me if I wanted to change the region of the drive.

Then, I ran the VIDEO_TS folder, that Hades gave me, through dvd backup and it removed the RCE properly.

Now I have a perfect back up burnt on dvd-r.

ps. the DVD in question is region-1 and I am in region-2 .

[zorankarapancev]

Unfortunately, that approach didn't work for me. I am still in "no man's land".[/img]

[AntnyMD]

Where are all you region 2 folks getting region 1 DVDs?

[terryj]

the Internet?
:P
Seriously, I get mine sometimes from
places like CDNOW.com....

[gilgamesh]

Where are all you region 2 folks getting region 1 DVDs?

As I mentioned before, the dvd is a gift from a friend of mine, who purchased in the region-1 market segment during a trip.

To the best of my knowledge, we do not have an access to region-1 dvd s here. That would be against the nature of market segmentation.

[AntnyMD]

Just checkin'

[zorankarapancev]

I do video production and standard conversions (NTSC - PAL - SECAM).

[WiseWeasel]

I do video production and standard conversions (NTSC - PAL - SECAM).

If you do standards conversion professionally, as much as I hate to say it, I think you'd be better off buying a cheap PC and using some of the great tools available for this. It would be much more productive than trying to get this to work on the Mac. Sad, but it seems to be the market reality at this point. If you are just doing conversions as a hobby, then you can get by on the Mac, but for professional use, in the world of deadlines and time-sensitive profit, you'd be best served with a Windows-running PC.

[qshartle]

OK, I think I found a way to remove the RCE protection. Go into OSEx, and deselect everything in the options folder.

Rips the WHOLE dvd

delete that folder, open osex again, and select the settings you want in the otion folder. rip it.

i tried it with black hawk down, and it worked.


Q

[WiseWeasel]

OK, I think I found a way to remove the RCE protection. Go into OSEx, and deselect everything in the options folder.

Rips the WHOLE dvd

delete that folder, open osex again, and select the settings you want in the otion folder. rip it.

i tried it with black hawk down, and it worked.


Q

WTF? You have to deselect all options, run it, delete the output, set the options back to how they were, and run it again, and it removes the RCE? That's insane, if true. I wonder why it would need to be run that first time at all. If people could confirm this, that would be great. An interesting procedure, and I'm left wondering how in the hell you stumbled upon that.

[TugBoat]

Well, I couldn't get it to work on my Blackhawk Down. I tried it a few times with both versions of 0SEx. What settings do you have in the main part of 0SEx? Everytime I tried it, ifoedit and DVDDecrypter declared "RCE Checking Present". Right now I'm trying the old DVDExtractor 0.9b in Classic. Grasping at Straws....

[qshartle]

I have it set as a dvd folder.

Q

[TugBoat]

Nope, it won't work for me. I just tried it again with 0SEx 0.0101b, unchecked 'Disable Macrovision' and 'Set Broken GOP Flag', left the top four selections set at default, set Fmt to 'DVD FOLDERS'. I have to copy the 'JACKET_P' folder to the output folder or I get that stupid "0SExThread_DiscFormat::dvdx:mkdir()" error with both versions of 0SEx. I then delete the entire output folder and select 'Disable Macrovision' and 'Set Broken GOP Flag' in the OPTS panel, Fmt still set to 'DVD FOLDERS'. I think I've tried it at least four times now, same same.

I had to run DVDExtractor 0.9b again as nothing (including DVDExtractor) would open the .image that it made in Classic. Now I'm running it on my PowerBook that will actually boot into OS9. About another 20 minutes or so and it should be finished.