How big is American Music in other Countries?

[tgpo]

I was listening to The Shins the other day and thought about how people have probably heard of them in the UK, but over here almost nobody has every heard of them. Same goes for Space, Aphex Twin, and similar bands. Even KMFDM was only taken my a small group here.

Is American music popular in the UK? Are your top 10 lists mixed with UK bands and American bands?

I'm just curious because all that seems to be played in the US are US bands.

[Tommyknocker]

Well, Tgpo, I know you did not ask about Italy, per se, but it is pretty big over here as well. My wife likes MTV, and the Italian version of it here plays a lot of it as well.

[tgpo]

Italy is fine. So American music is big there, but Italian music so no where over here. Is America really that closed off??

[Tommyknocker]

Not exactly. Most people do not seem to realize that America is in its Golden Age. It is the part of a country's history that its very culture is emulated around the world. Egypt, Greece, The Roman Empire, The British Empire, etc, all had such ages. There are certain aspects of Italy that do make it there such as Italian Opera, fashion (Milan is the world capital of fashion now, it is no longer Paris), etc.

[pacmania_2001]

It depends where and what you listen to in Australia. Although we have a very good local music scene we still get a large amount of American music. I would estimate probably 50-60% American music is played on a channel like MTV.

[tgpo]

I wish we had more British music oer here. It's just so good!

And I guess Silverchair did make it over here from Down Under. And IceHouse had the song Great Southern Land on the Young Eienstien(SP?) soundtrack. It wasn't popular and no one has heard of it, but I like it

[pacmania_2001]

We have a lot of good punk/alternate rock bands here. Silverchair is one of the bigger ones but in terms of music I think their are better.

We also have alot of female pop stars such as Delta Goodrem (wouldn't be suprised if she breaks the US market, nice girl as well), Holly Valance and Kylie Minouge.

The problem with the US is that for international acts its so hard to get recognition in unless they are massive in other countries.

[tgpo]

Heard of Kylie Minouge. She was hot in BioDome

[pacmania_2001]

Do a search on the net for pictures of Holly Valance and Delta Goodrem. I think you'll like them as well.

We breed them well down here.

[tgpo]

We breed them well down here.

Kylie Minouge, Peter Jackson, Yahoo Serious. Yeah, I'd say ya'll do.

[pacmania_2001]

Holly Valance:



Delta Goodrem:

[energy80s]

Here is the current UK Top 20 Singles chart (for anyone that's interested) ....


Chart Produced On: 09 November 2003 Week: 46

1 SLOW
KYLIE MINOGUE
PARLOPHONE

2 FLIP REVERSE
BLAZIN' SQUAD
EAST WEST

3 BE FAITHFUL
FATMAN SCOOP/CROOKLYN CLAN
DEF JAM

4 TURN ME ON
KEVIN LYTTLE
ATLANTIC

5 WHERE IS THE LOVE
BLACK EYED PEAS
A&M

6 IF YOU COME TO ME
ATOMIC KITTEN
INNOCENT

7 GUILTY
BLUE
INNOCENT

8 HOLE IN THE HEAD
SUGABABES
ISLAND

9 TROUBLE
PINK
ARISTA

10 SEXED UP
ROBBIE WILLIAMS
CHRYSALIS

11 LOVE ME RIGHT (OH SHEILA)
ANGEL CITY FT LARA MCALLEN
DATA

12 STATE OF MIND
HOLLY VALANCE
LONDON

13 SUPERSTAR
JAMELIA
PARLOPHONE

14 STEP IN THE NAME OF LOVE/THOIA THONG
R KELLY
JIVE

15 JUMPIN'
LIBERTY X
V2

16 WHITE FLAG
DIDO
CHEEKY

17 BURN BURN
LOSTPROPHETS
VISIBLE NOISE

18 MAYBE
EMMA
19

19 I BELIEVE IN A THING CALLED LOVE
DARKNESS
MUST DESTROY

20 GOT SOME TEETH
OBIE TRICE
INTERSCOPE

[pacmania_2001]

The Australian Chart:

1 - NEW 1 SLOW Kylie Minogue

FMR 021642
2 3 6 2 P.I.M.P. 50 Cent <G> INR/UMA 9811812
3 1 4 1 RISE UP Australian Idol Final 12 <G> BMG 82876567492
4 5 5 4 BABY BOY Beyonce feat. Sean Paul <G>
5 2 15 1 WHERE IS THE LOVE? Black Eyed Peas
6 4 10 4 SOMEDAY Nickelback <G> RR/UMA RR20043
7 6 8 1 NOT ME, NOT I Delta Goodrem

EPI/SONY 674262.5
8 7 13 3 SHAKE YA TAILFEATHER P. Diddy / Nelly / Murphy Lee
9 9 9 9 INTO YOU Fabolous WARNER 7559674722
10 8 9 8 SO YESTERDAY Hilary Duff FMR 021562
11 12 16 8 BREATHE Blu Cantrell <G> RCA/BMG 82876534012
12 11 2 11 LOW Kelly Clarkson RCA/BMG 82876573322
13 10 2 10 TROUBLE Pink ARI/BMG 82876567862
14 16 3 14 STATE OF MIND Holly Valance ERM/UMA ERM0018
15 13 12 6 RIGHT THURR Chingy <G> CAP/EMI 5529242
16 18 4 16 THOIA THOING R Kelly BMG 82876555692
17 17 4 17 STACY'S MOM Fountains Of Wayne VIR/EMI 5475452
18 15 5 15 NUMB Linkin Park WARNER 9362426742
19 19 2 19 SLAVE TO THE MUSIC Nick Skitz CSR/SHK CSRCD50434
20 21 3 20 MOVE YOUR FEET Junior Senior EPI/SONY 674417.2

[g_shocker182]

The Australian Chart:

1 - NEW 1 SLOW Kylie Minogue

FMR 021642
2 3 6 2 P.I.M.P. 50 Cent <G> INR/UMA 9811812
3 1 4 1 RISE UP Australian Idol Final 12 <G> BMG 82876567492
4 5 5 4 BABY BOY Beyonce feat. Sean Paul <G>
5 2 15 1 WHERE IS THE LOVE? Black Eyed Peas
6 4 10 4 SOMEDAY Nickelback <G> RR/UMA RR20043
7 6 8 1 NOT ME, NOT I Delta Goodrem

EPI/SONY 674262.5
8 7 13 3 SHAKE YA TAILFEATHER P. Diddy / Nelly / Murphy Lee
9 9 9 9 INTO YOU Fabolous WARNER 7559674722
10 8 9 8 SO YESTERDAY Hilary Duff FMR 021562
11 12 16 8 BREATHE Blu Cantrell <G> RCA/BMG 82876534012
12 11 2 11 LOW Kelly Clarkson RCA/BMG 82876573322
13 10 2 10 TROUBLE Pink ARI/BMG 82876567862
14 16 3 14 STATE OF MIND Holly Valance ERM/UMA ERM0018
15 13 12 6 RIGHT THURR Chingy <G> CAP/EMI 5529242
16 18 4 16 THOIA THOING R Kelly BMG 82876555692
17 17 4 17 STACY'S MOM Fountains Of Wayne VIR/EMI 5475452
18 15 5 15 NUMB Linkin Park WARNER 9362426742
19 19 2 19 SLAVE TO THE MUSIC Nick Skitz CSR/SHK CSRCD50434
20 21 3 20 MOVE YOUR FEET Junior Senior EPI/SONY 674417.2

Mirrors ours

[pacmania_2001]

Sad isn't it?

Especially the amount of R'n'B crap, luckily we still have Triple J.

[Rookie64]

And IceHouse had the song Great Southern Land on the Young Eienstien(SP?) soundtrack. It wasn't popular and no one has heard of it, but I like it

That's the kinda stuff MTV used to show all the time in the early to mid '80s.

Icehouse were very popular back then in the US...Hey Little Girl and No Promises had the most airplay.

And yea, Great Southern Land used to get played a lot on a couple local radio stations in Pittsburgh.
I bought that album when it was first released.

They used to sell a lot of 12" remixes in the '80s also.

I can remember the days you could go into a record store and pick up an album for a buck or two.


Most of the teen movies from the '80s had a bunch of the New Wave music on their soundtracks.


If you have digital cable or a dish...you can pretty much find anything on their Music Choice channels. The New Wave channel will play most stuff from the '80s, if it's available on CD.

Unfortunately, a lot of stuff never got reissued when CD's came along...so there are a lot of lost treasures.
That was the appeal of P2P...you could find most stuff on there at first,
but now it's not as easy to get.


I loved most of the Aussie bands from the '80s - Also very into Simple Minds (from Scotland) and a whole bunch of Reggae 8)

[Canoe164]

Rookie64 wrote:

Icehouse were very popular back then in the US...Hey Little Girl and No Promises had the most airplay.

I remember Icehouse as a pretty good band. One that I like out of Canada has always been 'Tragically Hip'.

I personally think that MTV and the cartels that own American radio stations force certain "marketable" music down peoples throats.

I apologize if I am getting the Hypertext screwed up.

Fixed your BBCode

[Canoe164]

Yikes...That looks just great

[tgpo]

Kinda like how Radio Stations ignored Fountains of Wayne until their third album. Not they play Stay's Mom 24/7. Or how the song 'Send the Pain Below' is played every 5 seconds. Radio & MTV sucks.

[Canoe164]

Thanks for fixin'

Fountains of Wayne is one of the few albums I have liked in, say a year. Just good music. Prior to that I would have to look to Kenny Chesny's CD.

Both of those albums I got before they took off and I am happy that I did. I got to listen to good music before MTV/CMTV killed me with overplay.

As I have said in these forums before, and to make clear: Radio Sucks. An airway desert. Stagnant and void of new clear sounds that make a generation.

Come on. the seventy's style of clothing, tatoos and music (see re-makes)is the only new thing this generation of 20's can do. Get off your asses and make music that defines 'your' generation.

I will sit in my recliner and wait..And at this rate I will see the new material girl.

Too late 'OOPs I Did It Again' Spears

[tgpo]

Fountains of Wayne's debut album was great! Their followup, Utopia Parkway, was also a great album. I've yet to check out their new one.

[Rookie64]

As I have said in these forums before, and to make clear: Radio Sucks.

I was saying that about radio as far back as the late '70s


Always fun back then to call the radio station and ask if they could play a certain song - and what I got from them was usually...

after several attempts and getting busy signals:
No
We don't play that
Dude, I just played that a short while ago - tuff...you missed it

or
an enthusiastic oooh...OK
but after a few hours go by...you realize they aren't going play your song


I used to work in radio when I was in college - that sucked too.
mid '80s - not allowed to touch anything New Wave (when the stuff was brand new) - they had every album you could think of but all that stuff was still sealed and stuffed tightly across the bottom record shelf.

The albums you were allowed to play had tags taped to the cover saying what tracks you were allowed to play - and that meant play those tracks only.

Then I had the pleasure of being the victim of answering the phone all day and taking requests from people, and the DJ wouldn't play any of 'em
A few would keep calling and demand that their song get played or some dude getting pissed about his Ozzy song not being played and would call back every 5 minutes and yell until you played the damn song


I knew I didn't want any part in that and got into television production and creative writing instead.

[Canoe164]

The thing that gets me is when I play, say Little Feat, and youngins think that is good music. Really? I say they have been makin' song for 30 plus years. Or some have found Billy Joel and I have to go...didn't your parents play music in the house? These were focal points in musical time.

I am not here to say whether the afore mentioned were good or bad, but rather that what the hell was played in peoples homes that makes 70's music so appealing to 20 plus. And for that matter, with it, the rise of the use of Horse.

I am stymied when a generation looks outside itself for its music and culture.

[Canoe164]

Rookie64, do you remember when there was more than one channel that played the same thing? I think I remember when radio DJ's would experiment. Too many stations and artist use formula's. Granted, each may be seperate, but still serve the same purpose.

Now that I think about it again...'The Wall' pretty much had it right.

[Rookie64]

Rookie64, do you remember when there was more than one channel that played the same thing? I think I remember when radio DJ's would experiment. Too many stations and artist use formula's. Granted, each may be seperate, but still serve the same purpose.

Now that I think about it again...'The Wall' pretty much had it right.

Yea, a handful of stations would try something different.
A couple in my area tried to be diverse in the '80s, but it didn't last long


If you notice...a lot of today's acts are pretty much covering older tunes.

If you caught the American Music Awards earlier, there were a couple performed there.

Same with today's commercials - they're usually old pop tunes used for their jingles.