Canopus ADVC-100 or Canopus ADVC-50

[aphex23]

Hi guys! first off, i wanna say, nothing good about dazzle sh!t! spent 2 weeks trying to get it to capture for more than 5 minutes, and it just inst happening! so i need your help! first off, what is the dif between the Canopus ADVC-100 and the 50 model? second, i am going to want to export or, play black to a vcr to record on a vhs tape, is this capable of doing this? and i also need it to be pretty high quality as i will be making DVD as well in the future, and lastly, do you think one of these two are my best choice? im going to be captureing from my hi8 vid cam, so, i just basicly need some quick advice before i cant take the dvc 150 back! thanks a ton everyone!

[Bondiablo]

Well the ADVC-100 can send back to tape and the ADVC-50 can not so...

[aphex23]

so i willmore than likey want the 100 i take it? and how is the quality? quite nice? thanks a big one

[VCD GURU]

Hi!

I bought a Canopus ADVC 50.

Since it comes with an (optinal) 5 1/2inch bay for more easy connecting
the device's to it.

The quality is great!

I can use it with most programs like pinnacle, ulead, adobe...

I have tried alot of different video capture products by the years, but this seems to be the best and most afordable one for me.

There have been some biching about the advc that it wont work with a Firewire card that uses texas inst. chipset.

But i contacted the canopus support before buying and they said there are no such problems.

I have had it for a month now and it works great with my Pinnacle firewire card (wich uses texas inst. chipset).

*The unit will not work with Win xp SP1.
*You need a firewire card to plug the device in.

I think it will work with most firewire cards out there.

Have a nice 1

[aphex23]

so you are saying i cant use this with SP1??? i have sp1 installed.. hmm, is this a known fact?

[TheSeven7hSon]

There have been some biching about the advc that it wont work with a Firewire card that uses texas inst. chipset.

The TI LV23s like the DLinks do not work. TI LV26s work.

Seven

[aphex23]

hm, ok so, by seeing what i am looking for, would you all agree that the advc 100 is my best bet for what i want? thanks alot

[flaninacupboard]

yep, looks that way.
i bought the 50 for a couple of reasons
wanted it to be internal
don't need to output to vhs, it's all going to dvd
i wanted the £50 saving to spend on something else!

[TheSeven7hSon]

The ADVC-100 kicks butt. Maybe a little pricey but it's a good product. I think the difference between these two Canopus products is that the 100 has analog output and the 50 does not. And you have to decide where you want to connect your cables to - to the front of your computer or to a breakout like box on your desktop. The 50 can also be used straight as a pci card I think.

I don't have a Dazzle but they ~may~ be fine products once you get them to work. But if your still able to return it... I would. Go with the ADVC-100 if you can afford it. Some people buy a DV camera with pass through instead. Do a check in the Capture Cards to the left. You will find that most people are happy with the ADVC-100. The 100 Does Not come with any software. That would be up to you or the Firewire card.

I think the Dazzle converts to DVD MPEG on-the-fly. That's something I wish I had from time to time. Most of the time, I want straight DV. I'll edit it and then later encode it.

My apologies to VCD GURU. Didn't mean to sound like I was nocking you. Just want to clarify the chipset problem. I think Canopus made a change to the original ADVC-100 so maybe they fixed it by now. I know mine doesn't work with my DLink. Monoxide77 suggests an NEC one as well:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150522&highlight=

Seven

[aphex23]

ok, thanks alot guys, yeah, it sounds what i am looking for, i dont think i really need the straight to mpeg that i have now with the dvc150.. i need to edit it anyway, but then again, i dont know much about this stuff yet ;p and as far as the software goes, i know i need software, and almost everything should recognize this thing right? e.g. pinnacle, ulead, etc etc..? thanks again, dont wanna make another mistake again ya know! :P

oo, one last thing, the firewire card i have, well, its the build in firewire in my sound blaster audigy, that should cause a problem should it? thanks a mil!

[TBoneit]

Well I'll confirm that the ADVC-100 doesn't like the TI Chipset on the D-Link fiewire card. Turning it off and on 5 to 10 times until it catches and works gets old quick.

Picked up a cheapy card with via chipset and it always works first time.

However YMMV
RT

[notar80]

G'day people, Just writing from Australia. Could someone please tell me if the Canopus advc 100, has had any major problems, as I am concidering purchasing it. I wish to connect an analog camera and then transfer the footage to DVD and back to VCR , using pinnicle studio 8 and Ulead's DVD pictureshow 2. Also can some one recommend a firewire card as I have no idea on which one is suitable for advc 100. I am using a Athlon 1.6g, OS XP, 512 DDR Ram, Nvidia Geforce 2 graphics card. If any one has any recomendations on software or hardware which is better than the hardware or software I'm currently using, your input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Notar80

[skateni]

G'day people, Just writing from Australia. Could someone please tell me if the Canopus advc 100, has had any major problems, as I am concidering purchasing it. I wish to connect an analog camera and then transfer the footage to DVD and back to VCR , using pinnicle studio 8 and Ulead's DVD pictureshow 2. Also can some one recommend a firewire card as I have no idea on which one is suitable for advc 100. I am using a Athlon 1.6g, OS XP, 512 DDR Ram, Nvidia Geforce 2 graphics card. If any one has any recomendations on software or hardware which is better than the hardware or software I'm currently using, your input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Notar80

Sunny Singapore here and using the ADVC-100 for about two months now. No problems ( so far ) and very happy with it. It captures great. Make sure you have a big, fast hardisk ( preferably dedicated and running on it's own IDE channel ). I've used ULead VideoStudio 6/7, MovieMaker 2 but tend to go for the no frills, free DVIO more and more. Any cheap, unbranded firewire card will suffice ( but stay away from the D-Link ones, heard some problems with those ). I myself using an NEC chipset firewire and also a VIA one and it works like a charm.

Hardware is minimal ( not much oomph required to capture to disk ) but you need loads of CPU power to encode your AVI

[trillium]

Wonderful rainy and cold Elkton, MD with an ADVC-100 since the beginning of January attached to an Athlon 750. Love the little beastie and wouldn't be caught dead without it now that I've started transferring buckets and buckets of BetaMax tapes to DVD.

I prefer ScenalyzerLive! for capture, VirtualDub for the editing I do, and avisynth frameserving out to TMPGEnc. Authoring is done in SpruceUp! (unfortunately no longer available), but I also author with ifoedit when menus aren't needed.

Been very impressed with the overall quality of captures, and have it that I can capture from either VHS or BetaMax VCR. You just need LOTS of disk space for capturing to AVI format, and I wouldn't be to concerned even about CPU. Like I said, I'm running captures on an Athlon 750 with no frame drops or audio sync issues. Encoding on the other hands takes whole lotta' time!

And as long as your firewire card is OHCI (except for the Ti and Dlink cards) you should be fine. I picked up a 'computer show' white box special for $28 with a VIA 1394 chipset on it. Works great. Also have verified that the ADVC-100 has no issues with the firewire built into the Asus A7N8X motherboards.

Best of luck to ya!

[aphex23]

wow, i thank you all for the great help! i appreciate it very much, one last question, how big of a harddrive should i get? i figured i would need a new one, i have a 30 and a 15.. was thinking of getting a 80, would that suffice? or should i go all out and get the 120? would like to save some money, so, i will mainly be capturing 2-3 hours at once, then i will more than likey finish that, and start another movie, so depending on how big a 3 hr movie captured from that is, some one wanna give me a idea what size i should be looking for here? thanks a buch in advance again

[flaninacupboard]

a three hour movie would be 39 gigs, DV being 13 gigs an hour. given you want to edit and then output to tape, you'll need to capture, edit and save as another avi file, meaning if you capture 39 gigs, cut the beggining and the end you still need another 39 gigs to output to, so i would say an 80 gig is a no-no. i'm struggling by on a 60 gig, suffice to say it regularly causes problems.

[skateni]

For AVI captures, the more the better I say ( I have a 120 Gb PLUS a 160 Gb external firewire ). As for software encoding, the faster CPU the better ( though I understand the AMD performs a little better than the Intel P4 ( for the same rating i.e the 2200+ as compared to the 2.2 GHz P4 ) though I can't vouch for that personally ). I have a Shuttle SB51G with a P4 2.66 GHz and 512 Mb DDR333 ram and the ADVC-100 works on the built in firewire port too

[tigeroolfd]

If you don't do much editing, I suggest just capture as MPEG2 (DVD compliant formats) providing you have a fast CPU. This way you don't need a lot of disk space. I have been using ULead Video Studio 7 to capture video from DirectTV from ADVC100 and the results are very good.

[aphex23]

hmm, wow, those are some big ass files! haha, but, yeah, i am going to do lots of editing, lots and LOTS of chopping up video, and as far as cpu goes, i have a athlon xp 2100+ thanks again guys, this forum is awsome

[Will Hay]

The ADVC-100 kicks butt. Maybe a little pricey but it's a good product. I think the difference between these two Canopus products is that the 100 has analog output and the 50 does not.

This is totally inaccurate, for anyone thinking of the ADVC-50 over the 100.
Will

[vhelp]

Hay will,

The ADVC-100 kicks butt. Maybe a little pricey but it's a good product. I think the difference between these two Canopus products is that the 100 has analog output and the 50 does not.

This is totally inaccurate, for anyone thinking of the ADVC-50 over the 100.
Will

I think this poster was refereing to the TV-OUT part of the advc-100 model :P

-vhelp 2007

[Will Hay]

TheSeven7hSon, sorry man, I really should read the posts properly
I was thinking if imput

Thanks vhelp
Will