new macrovision that prevents dvd to dvdr copying?

[jeex]

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/7873


eh?

is it the same old macrovision that we're accustomed to or a new macrovision?

[Vejita-sama]

It's just a press release saying that Artisan has signed a deal with macrovision to use it's technology on all of it's DVD releases. Not sure where the confusing point is??

[jeex]

"Macrovision’s DVD copy protection technology also helps to prevent DVD-to-DVD copying. The majority of recently introduced DVD recorders, personal video recorders (hard drive recorders), and home media center PCs recognize Macrovision’s proprietary technology and disable recording of copy protected content."

“Macrovision’s technology blocks DVD-to-DVD-R copying which should help Artisan and its retail partners generate the maximum amount of home video revenue possible.”

"Macrovision’s technology to prevent the majority of that casual copying by VCRs, as well as the new DVD-R and PVR devices.”

the way they're talking, its like they have figured out a way to stop current means of copying dvd9 to dvd-r.

i kind of doubt it, but the way its worded seems odd.

[garryheather]

Don't forget that Macrovision is hardwired into your player. The disc simply has a flag in the IFO file that tells the player whether or not to enable this "feature", and your player does the rest.

If a new version comes out, like one that doesn't bugger up projectors and some plasmas / older TV's, it will have to be implemented at a hardware level and will only affect new hardware where the manufacturer has paid the license fees to Macrovision for the "priveledge".

You can not put a new version of Macrovision on a movie - it's not updateable by the software and it will not stop people backing up the discs. It just means the publishing house wither didn't have the rights to use Macrovision and they now do, or their lease expired and they've renewed it. Why it's a big deal that merits media attention is beyond me !

[dafoe]

They are talking about set top DVD recoders, not people ripping DVDs with a PC.

[northcat_8]

It doesn't matter,

no matter what new technology comes out, it will be figured out, hacked and posted on the web in less than a week.

What they don't realize is the very technology that enables them to protect things better and better is the exact same technology that enables others to take that protection out.

It's an amusing cycle.

Direct TV came with the "smart cards" to prevent unauthorized viewing...yea, mean while their CEO in on TechTV whining about how they lost 8 billion (has to be exaggerated) last year by people pirating the smart cards and getting free DirectTV. And the best part...on that program they virtually took you right through the steps to get, and program a smart card. Where to buy the smart card programmers, how much they cost, said you could download the program to program the cards and even went so far as to say that you could buy the blank cards online from canada. So if you didn't know how before, you could certainly figure it out from their help.

That's just like the "blue lazer" DVD...right, that will not work either and they will think of something else that will get broken down too, but that's how technology evolves.

[Skynet107]

Very very well said northcat.

[The village idiot]

Last I heard, it is still unconfirmed that you can buy "blank" smartcards to use with DTV. But I haven't heard anything lately, so I might be wrong. Also just because you can program a card, doesn't mean that card will stay functioning for very long. Dave has a vert good track record of killing simple programming on cards. They even "program" your receiver (IRD) to reject your card. It is far more complex than some simple binary code onto a card to get the stolen TV. Anyone thinking it is so easy, should just forget about stealing DTV. Pay for the damn thing, or better yet pay for DISHnet (Fishnet).

As far as copying DVD's, yes someone will break whatever they come up with! They should save their money. Investing in new encryption is very wasteful. It will always be broken! Always!

[Laddydaddy]

They're basically saying that you won't be able to copy DVD to DVD-R directly. This is nothing new. That's why we have programs like smart ripper and dvd decrypter.

[northcat_8]

Village,

What people are doing is they are making "master cards" like the installers have. Now I'll be honest, I don't know specifics of the whole process and you are right it's probably a little more difficult than I made is sound...usually is. DirectTV started out with a "H" card and apparently those were child's play to hack, so they came out with the "HU" card, but the people with H cards could still get TV. Then they started replacing customer's H cards with the HU cards. Then Last year or 2 years ago during the superbowl they sent out a signal that was suppose to disable any H cards that picked up the signal, I don't know how it did, but they came out and gave us a new HU card and I was talking to the guy. The superbowl part was on TechTV. But now they have the same problems with the HU card.

You can still buy the cards on-line, but as they said on TechTV the FCC or some other government agency has set up a sting operation and they take orders for the blank cards and then they come arrest your ass. I don't steal Direct TV so I don't have to worry about it. I just think it's funny that every time they come out with something new...it is the end all, UN-PIRATE-ABLE, unbreakable NEW security feature and 2 weeks later everything is back to where it was before.

Talk about continually running up hill...