99 min CDR's COMPusa

[nba_bill]

I just purchased them. Just had a question. What is the MAX amount of MEGs that can be burned on them? Also do I just use NERO in overburn?? Thanks for the replies!!!

[thxkid]

Nero 5.5.3.5 supports overburn to 99min. if your burner does is another question.
850MB for Data, if you are doing a VCD or SVCD I got one at 98min. 15sec. that was 1050MB, worked no probs.
Also using a HP9100i to overburn.

[valley_view_ca]

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Okay, I’m not familiar with the new 99MIN cd-r’s, but I’m supposing they are 800MB? If this is the case, you can burn approx- 933MB of vcd media on them.

I normally work with standard 700MB cd-r’s. When I rip/encode dvd’s, and when it’s time to copy my files onto the CD-R, I can fit approx- 816.7MB of media onto a standard 700MB CD-R.

The formula is: 700MB x 2380 / 2040 = 816.7MB.

So if you’re working with 800MB cd’s, you could substitute the 700MB in the formula to 800MB.

See, a standard 80 minute CD is 700MB, but that is in sector sizes of 2040, and it has built in error correction.

With a VCD, they don't do error correction, because it isn't a big deal if one frame goes bad, etc. Actually, they do still have a little error correction, but not nearly as much as a data CD. So, a VCD sector sizes are 2380. What that means for us is that we can fit more data on a CD!

Here is the formula once again for the exact amount:
700MB x 2380 / 2040 = 816.7MB.


So, at 10-12MB per minute, we can fit between 68-81 minutes of video on one CD.

[therockfan]

THXKid
How did you enable overburning in your hp9100??

Thanks

[Jeomite]

Only like three burners can burn up to 99:00... then theres plenty that is able to burn up to 90:00. In order to burn atleast 90:00, you have to make sure your CD Recorder can do it in the first place. There was a list of compatible burners somewhere on http://www.disc4you.com ... anyways, I found out that 90:00 burns are compatible with 95% of common electronics such as DVD Players and Audio CD Players. I haven't seen one electronic that can play 99:00 burned cds.

On an revelant note, I have to say CompUSA makes the crappiest CDRs (not just 99min but even 80/74min CDRs) in the world. I haven't seen a worst CDR media ever. They crap out in less than a month. That's all... =|

[kitty]

http://www.disc4you.com/news/99min.html

A table of burners is on this page too

Anyone try 99 min cdrs with a sony burner? CRX140E?

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My Apex 703 plays CompUsa 99 minute CDR's burned to their max just fine. My Apex 660 plays them fine as well. These players are produced by two different manufacturers which badge them under many different brand names. GE being one of them. I'm sure there are plenty of players that can handle them.
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On an revelant note, I have to say CompUSA makes the crappiest CDRs (not just 99min but even 80/74min CDRs) in the world. I haven't seen a worst CDR media ever. They crap out in less than a month. That's all... =|
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Only one month? Sounds like a Mission Impossible type theme. Do they self distruct? I expect to get a heck of alot more than a month out of them. They are produced by FMI. I haven't had any problem with them or the 80 minute ones either.

[vitualis]

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Um... I don't think your formula is quite correct. Firstly, the total size of a sector/block is 2352 bytes (not 2380) and I think MODE1 uses 2048 bytes/sector.

VCD (mode2 form2) uses (??) 2324 bytes/sector --> 795-805MB.

Furthermore, you have at minimum a 6 second overhead on any S/VCD which is taken up but the first track.

Regards,
Michael Tam

[Jeomite]

Wow, you're fortunate to have 99min-CDR Compatible players. =P 99min-burned CDRs wont play on my DVD Player (Pioneer DV-333) nor any standalone or portable cd players I tried it on. They do play 90min-burned CDRs just fine.

CompUSA CDRs uses Cyanines dye (cheapest type of them). Which means they will not last long and will easily be ruined. The ones to look for are the CDRs with PhthaloCyanine dye, usually the ones made in Japan; Taiyo Yudan factories. Some brands that are manufactured in Taiyo Yudan factories are FujiFilm CDRs, *most* TDK CDRs and *most* Sony CDRs.

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Jeomite-

Thanks for the info. I can see a real problem with cheap cdr's being a problem for audio burns because there may be a tendency to play them alot. At least that's the way it is for me. With music the cdr's seem to get used alot.

With video I find I don't use them as much. Maybe a couple viewings a year - maybe more sometimes. They spend all of their time on the shelf in a case. I've seen some studies that attempt to test the life of various CDR's using an aging process and some hold up alot better than others. My question has always been what is involved in the simulated aging process. Does it involve simulated use? Not sure.

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Here's a good link:

http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_dye.shtml

The links on the bottom of the link and to the left of it are good as well.

[JOHNinLBC]

Hello all to let everyone know I have been burning MOVIES over 100 minutes long on these Comp USA 99 min 850 meg disks. Using SEFE guide on converting 90 minute movies on 80 min 70meg disks USING NOT NERO but the new NTI burning program. I HAVE A Pacific Digital 8x and a BTC 16x both I can overburn with no problem.I have been able to convert anything right aroung a gig to 1.1gig on one CDR. WIth GREAT QUALITY and SOUND!!! if you want more info e-mail me or follow up on it here.

Thanks

[too2buff]

will the average movies fit on one 99 minute VCD i hope so so i can have a one cd dvd rip , i tried a verison of Final Fantasy spirits within but it was over a gig which annoyed me

[JOHNinLBC]

The movie will fit if you use Sefy's templets and recompress the movies. taking out some of the quality of the video and some of the audio. You can change the 1 gig into 850megs which what the 99mins CD-R's are. E-mail me if you want the exact details..

[Sefy]

For those who want to know which CD-ReWriters support 90 or 99min (there are more then 3!) you can check the new page Baldrick added in the Comparison, should cover almost all the popular models and unknown ones as well.

[marvel2020]

You guys in the USA are very lucky. Over here in the UK you can only get 2 kind's of 90 mintue CDR's,

MIRROR MAX 90minute+ and INFINITI 80 minute+.

Now according to the website's that is selling them these 2 CDR's are suppose to burn out 99 minutes, well i can tell at least one them doesn't.

I have some of the Mirror MAX 90minute's and have tried them with NERO and an LG 8080B writer and a 960meg film THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT they fail at 92 minute's.

Dunno about the INFINITI CDR's as i'm not sure if i want to spend more money on something that doesn't work.

Untill some company over here decides to import some of those 99mintue cdr's i'll have to use sevy's templates to convert the film so that it fits onto a 90mintue.

Here's the 2 site's in question just in case your wondering

http://www.ukplus.co.uk/ukplus/clickcounter.jsp?id=307180&brand=Freeserve&search=cdr%2...pg=0&location=

http://www.business-ecommercesoftware.co.uk/business/svpcomm/index.html





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