Some thoughts from a Christain/American...

[Feslmogh]

After reading the threads pertaining the WTC and the Pentagon bombing, I would like to say a few things...

First of all, we was warned! Pat Robinson ( Http://www.cbn.com )on Labor Day said an terrorist attack on American soil was eniment in two years. You can watch the online Tuesday morning broadcast of the 700 Club.

Second, Notrodumbass is a fake and a fraud! He's just like any other false phrophets.

Third, we Christains support Israel. But that does not mean we hate Arabs, either. They are also prosecuted when they try the real truth about God. We pray that they find the real Truth. God IS great, but God is also LOVE. How can God love us when we kill innocent people? Doesn't the Law says You shall not kill? And doesn't it say also we shouldn't seek revenge because the revenge is God's? They need to stop fighting! STOP BEING RACIEST TO EACH OTHER!

Yes, there are groups who do things in the name of God, but for the wrong reasons. After the Oaklahoma bombing and the Atlanta (my home capital) and others like the KKK who are so-called christians kill, they put a dark, false image on the true meaning of being a Christian. Others like the ACLU and another groups whose name escape me at this moment are trying to separate God from us by not letting pray in public, in state houses, ect.

And let us not forget the Muslims who lives here in the States that they were also attacked by whoever done this! This is thier homeland, too!

This is NOT THE END yet! We DO NOT KNOW when the end comes! Jesus HIMSELF told us that even HIMSELF did not know when the second comming is...

Mark 13

1 And as he came out of the temple, one of his disciples said to him, "Look, Teacher, what wonderful stones and what wonderful buildings!" 2 And Jesus said to him, "Do you see these great buildings? There will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down." 3 And as he sat on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, 4 "Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign when these things are all to be accomplished?" 5 And Jesus began to say to them, "Take heed that no one leads you astray. 6 Many will come in my name, saying, 'I am he!' and they will lead many astray. 7 And when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed; this must take place, but the end is not yet. 8 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there will be earthquakes in various places, there will be famines; this is but the beginning of the birth-pangs. 9 "But take heed to yourselves; for they will deliver you up to councils; and you will be beaten in synagogues; and you will stand before governors and kings for my sake, to bear testimony before them. 10 And the gospel must first be preached to all nations. 11 And when they bring you to trial and deliver you up, do not be anxious beforehand what you are to say; but say whatever is given you in that hour, for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit. 12 And brother will deliver up brother to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death; 13 and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved...

32 "But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Matthew 24

1 Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. 2 But he answered them, "You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down." 3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?" 4 And Jesus answered them, "Take heed that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and they will lead many astray. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places: 8 all this is but the beginning of the birth-pangs. 9 "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation, and put you to death; and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then many will fall away, and betray one another, and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12 And because wickedness is multiplied, most men's love will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.

[d4n13l]

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Doesn't the Law says You shall not kill?
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No, it states you shall not murder. There is a distinct difference. Also, enough with the New Testament quotes - We dont need a sermon. *ESPECIALLY* when it 'seems' that the terrorist attacks are a result of clashing cultures/beliefs.

[Feslmogh]

The reason I did that because of all the Nostrudumbass crap that floating around...

[d4n13l]

Good call.

[thxkid]

Way to Stand Up!!!!! Feslmogh!!!

[vitualis]

Feslmogh,

It seems that many Christians are unware of this, but the god of Islam is the same god of the Christians.

Regards.

[AnnihilatorTokyo]

Why are we dragging in God and Jesus when nobody even know if they exist or not? There are not 1 single evidence that God created earth, life and people! Nor is there any proof that Jesus ever existed. What we have a scientific proof of what has happened, life, earth, solar-system and so on.
I suggest that in order to keep sane posts about what happened, leave out religion. Sure, the people that did this might have been religious fanatics, but don't drag in what God should do, Jesus or whatever.

Yes, I'm an atheist and if you open your eyes and look at all the proof out there, instead of reading an old book of stories that nobody really knows who written all the parts of, you also will come to the only real conclusion, it never happened they was it says in the Bible.

Feslmogh wrote;
"Doesn't the Law says You shall not kill? And doesn't it say also we shouldn't seek revenge because the revenge is God's?"
So I assume Bush is God? Or the US? Why does he/US have the power to kill people that has committed crimes? Thought all you Christians were against killing people. Or your just picking parts of the Bible when it fits the moment?

This attack was the result of US playing world police, getting yourself involved in things that aren't of your concern! I'm not saying that this wasn't a bad thing, because it was a horrible thing that happened. But to be honest, you had it coming after all these police actions you have had in the world fighting communism, saving your precious oil and a whole bunch of other things.

[monsoon01]

faith my friend, faith.

[Riot_Inc]

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hmmm,... it's still running on the same lines as the one baldrick is talking about...

[jaw2957]

AnnihilatorTokyo has put it best. As marx put it, religion is the opiat of the masses. It is what is supposed to keep people in check. Its how we can live civilized. Imagine a world with no purpose, no boundaries. You would have chaos. That is why religion is good. The only reason someone believes how they do, is because of the environment around them. Social influences. People don't like to here what they don't want to, so don't listen. Its the truth though. You argue about what you believe is right while I fight for my country(america), not for ghosts in the sky!

[AnnihilatorTokyo]

Monsoon01, faith in what?

[noname]

To AnnihilatorTokyo:
Faith that God and Jesus exist. You are exactly right, there is no SCIENTIFIC evidence that God or Jesus or Allah or Yahway or any of these gods (I think there all the same one) exist. The Christian faith is believing that God created heaven and earth. I wake up every morning and look outside and say, "Hey look! God created another day! He let me live! I'm so happy!" Yes, i know that must sound foolish, but when you belive, its a better feeling than any other in the world. Think of the person who loves you most. God loves you NO MATTER WHAT a million times that much, believe it or not. Faith is the answer.

[speedy]

Give us a break! Feslmogh foolishly blubbered:

"First of all, we was warned! Pat Robinson said on Labor Day said an terrorist attack on American soil was eniment in two years. You can watch the online Tuesday morning broadcast of the 700 Club. "

Anybody can say something vague in the time frame of TWO YEARS and then claim, see I told you so. Don't get me started on wacko right wing Christian nut cases with a god complex, AKA Pat Robinson and that other goof up, Rev. Fartwell. That's all I have to say on this obvious troll bait.

[AnnihilatorTokyo]

jaw2957; I'll agree with you, religion is to keep people in check. Lots of people use religion in the wrong way. My religion teacher said that NO WAR has started because of religion, it's just burning-fuel to get the masses on his side in this holy war.

noname, you are the only Christian person that I ever heard saying "The Christian faith is believing that God created heaven and earth." The rest says that God CREATED heaven and earth.

[ashtones]

If this unimaginable tragedy can put Americas focus back on the things that really matter instead of our usuall lust for money and things then something good can come from it. This silly bickering will get us no where.

[sicboy]

Feslmogh stated:

"Second, Notrodumbass is a fake and a fraud! He's just like any other false phrophets"

...just like all the prophets in the bible??

You said it yourself....

God Bless?

[alucard2050]

yes, Nostradamus practiced a pagan religion. if someone is a true prophet of God, then all the glory to God. how many of these prophets and palm readers on the tv give their talents to serve God. one thing about false prophets is that there can be truth to what they say. but lies are also mixed in. i don't believe Nostradamus is a fraud. just a prophet who should have dedicated his life and talents to God. maybe if his life was for God then maybe he wouldn't have had the ability to forsee. who knows? second, feslmogh, it is not revenge if the U.S. strikes back. it is called justice. if there is NO justice and NO punishment then these things will run rampant. what does that mean actually? it is CHAOS. if i remember my scripture, chaos is bad. there has to be some kind of order.

[alucard2050]

also, i live in the same town as Pat Robberson and let me tell you, he drives an extreamly nice caddilac. and didn't he at one time not long ago get frowned upon for some kind of fundraiser where he wouldn't allow certain people to work for them at that time because of the color of their skin? after that he quickly changed his mind and did allow them. lastly, whenever i have seen the show the guests that come on to the show to tell how they were saved by God always start off with, "I was watching the 700 club and I, ect, ect, ect," why do they always have to be watching the 700 club for the miracles in their life to happen?

[Shifthrow]

No Offense, what kind of a warning is that no matter who it comes from, and also, no one in their right mind listens to Pat Robinson anyways.