Capture/Edit ADVC 100 AVI with VirtualDub?

[EwanG]

OK, for some silly reason I thought I'd be able to capture and edit files from my new Canopus ADVC-100 using VirtualDub.

What's the trick to doing both of these things? Or is it just impossible...

Thanks,
Ewan

[skateni]

From the VirtualDub FAQ :

VirtualDub needs a Video for Windows capture driver to capture. Most Firewire (DV) devices do not provide a VFW driver, and thus cannot be used by VirtualDub at all.

Use DVIO to capture

[wwaag]

I use Scenalyzer (see tools section). I save in DV type 2. I can then open that file in either Vdub or Adobe Premiere. Works great. Using that same format, I can also directly encode in MainConcept or CCE if I don't want to do any editing.

[Bondiablo]

You can't use Virtual Dub to capture DV. You can use it to edit but you'll need to capture or convert to Type 2 DV (VirtualDub can open Type 1 but can't use the audio) and install a DV codec.

[EwanG]

Well, DVIO works fine. But I have to be a little more aware of what is going on since there's no preview option (i.e. you can't see what is being captured).

I tried doing a capture using the ArcSoft program that came with my DVD burner using MPEG - but every couple minutes I'd get a little sound rip as the ADVC resynced the audio and video. So I'm only using that to take the DVIO capture and then converting that to MPEG-2.

Since I plan to burn most of my captured video that probably isn't a horrible work path, but it would be nice to find a way to drop a step...

Thanks again,
Ewan

[TBoneit]

FWIW, I went the scenealyzer route because of the preview it gives.

The AVIs it creates from the ADVC-100 are rather large, but the quality is good. I capture with Scenealyzer now and burn in MF2. On my TV, The quality looks like the source (Sat TV).
Hope this helps. I downloaded the trial version did a test capture looked at the results and paid the bit of money to required register as it fit my needs for simplicity and ease of use and quality of results. Link to Scenealyzer in the Tools section at left.

Also Going this route gives me better results than capturing direct to Mpeg (DVD Settings). It Takes longer ... Twice as long as capture into Sonic MyDVD or Movie Factory2, but ease of edit, and better results seem to be worth it.

Dog-gone DVD Burner keeps eating money.... Drive, Capture device, Media, Software.

Good Luck
Roger

[yg1968]

You can try DVapp. It can can capture type 2, has a preview and is freeware.

http://noeld.com/dlvconf.htm

[coda304]

For god sakes…use Premiere

[EwanG]

Isn't Premiere like, oh, a few HUNDRED dollars? It's not bad enough I just got both an ADVC 100 and a DVD burner, but now I have to go with Cadillac software as well?

Seriously - I seem to recall that Premiere wasn't particularly DVD friendly the last time I looked at it. Perhaps it is so now?

[emigrant]

Premiere works fine for DVDs. I have an ADVC-100 as well, and I use Premiere to capture live satellite TV if it's something I can start myself. Otherwise I use something like iuVCR to schedule a capture, although I'm going to try wwaaag's Scenalyzer method soon.

In particular, Premiere works better if you update the MPEG encoder to the 1.2 or 1.3 beta, the 1.1 encoder (they're all from Main Concept) gives good results but both of the others are much better.

For my scheduled stuff, I use iuVCR to capture satellite using Huffy. Virtual Dub doesn't like Type 1 DV (only choice in iuVCR), and I have the CPU and drive space to handle a monstrous Huffy .avi that I can quickly edit in Vdub and frameserve off to Tmpgenc. Then I usually convert .wav to .ac3 and multiplex it back together and burn it using Sonic MyDVD (i like the styles, it's why i use it).

not sure that really answers anything, but I feel better for typing it all anyhow. 8^)

[trillium]

ADVC-100 + Scenalyzer (DV-Type 2)+ VirtualDub here....
though I will say I'm experimenting right down with frameserving with avisynth to TMPGenc
(encoding done in TMPGEnc)

It hasn't let me down yet and wwaag, THANKS for the macro guide, gotta try it so I can capture off VHS while I'm snoozing

[wwaag]

Just a further post to recommend Scenalyzer for capturing. Although not freeware, it does offer a lot of capability to control your captures. I even have a timer so that you "automate" your capture and encoding (see Guides)--not fancy, but it it enables me to capture programs off satellite (or whatever) during the wee hours.

The real advantage, regardless of how you capture in my view, is flexibility from the resulting DV files. Like I said in my earlier post, you can use Vdub or Premiere. Having both, it is clear that for simple editing of captured of programs (cutting end points, removal of commercials, etc.) Vdub is the way to go because it is a lot quicker. Premiere is useful ONLY if you want to use its noise filtering, cropping functions, etc. which are also available in Vdub as filters. However, if you're doing "home videos" and want to be "creative", then the opposite is true--Premiere is the way to go. Incidentally, you can also frameserve from Premiere into whatever encoder you like.

If you capture programs and only want to clip the start and end points, then you don't need Vdub or Premiere at all. From your captured file you can open either Tempgen or CCE Basic, select the beginning and end points, and encode directly. Advantage--it's faster than frameserving from Vdub or Premiere.

Again, the bottom line is flexibilty. Once you've gotten the DV file, then there are a lot of options for editing and encoding. You may find that one encoder will work better for some video materials than others. At least the choice is yours.

One other point--do your editing in native DV "before" you convert to MPEG. Even though I can do "automatic" encodes once the captures are completed, I find it much, much easier to edit first. Editing MPEG files is a lot more difficult--you'll find lots of threads highlighting these problems. Hope this is of some value.