DVD to DVD-R possible with Win98?

[Evil Twin]

Is it possible to backup dvd to dvd-r with win98?

I have done vcds with this os but now I am thinking of installing a burner in this pc. Any issues I should know about?

I have noticed that when making a VIDEO_TS and a AUDIO_TS folder it does not let me do it is all caps, it comes out video_ts and audio_ts only. Will this become a problem for me? Any ideas on how to get it stay all caps?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Marco33]

Well, 98 is a FAT 32 system so, you will have some issues with movies over 4 gigs.

Scienc Fiction & Action films tend to go over this and just about any movie over 2 hours.

I had a LOT of problems with XP till I converted to NTFS.

NTFS allows files over 4gig's.

[Evil Twin]

Thanks marco33, thats the info I was looking for.

Looks like it would be best to go to xp on that comp then.

[Marco33]

Yeah, I've been in this computer game since win 3.1 and XP has been the best.

[P@iNKilleR]

aye U can do it fine if U have dvd2one but that spoils having the menu's & stuff but U can rip a dvd like that & burn it back no probs

[dilligaf]

Ive only just gone to XP from win98 (mostly for video capture reasons). The guide in my sig was all done with win98

[Will Hay]

Despite the fact you'll have a much easier time backing up your dvd's, if you have the chance to convert to NTFS/WinXP - Do it.
I laboured on with Win98se simply on the basis that my system was 'perfectly' configured
Trust me, after wiping clean and upgrading to WinXP I've never, ever had some of the problems I experienced with Win98se.
Will

[energy80s]

I have two bootup drives, one with 98SE on it and the other with XP. I use the XP drive when I am working with files over 4 gigs in size. However I've found XP to be a very unstable OS. True, it doesn't blue screen all over the place like 98, but most of my software won't run on it!

Remember it's a clean install on a 5 gig partition of an 80 gig drive. So far, Nero doesn't like it, TMPG doesn't like it, Panasonic MPEG1 Encoder doesn't like it, Power DVD XP plays in black and white (you have to re-start playback to get it in colour!), BBmpeg doesn't run (although there's now an unofficial patch available), and Ulead VS6 crashes if you try to get it to play a DV file in it's "storyboard" window! The only programme that doesn't seem to crash is software for my DTT digital televsion capture card!

I'm seriously thinking of trying Win 2000 as I just can't be bothered with the hassle of XP but do need the NTFS file system.

[sade]

I have two bootup drives, one with 98SE on it and the other with XP. I use the XP drive when I am working with files over 4 gigs in size. However I've found XP to be a very unstable OS. True, it doesn't blue screen all over the place like 98, but most of my software won't run on it!

Remember it's a clean install on a 5 gig partition of an 80 gig drive. So far, Nero doesn't like it, TMPG doesn't like it, Panasonic MPEG1 Encoder doesn't like it, Power DVD XP plays in black and white (you have to re-start playback to get it in colour!), BBmpeg doesn't run (although there's now an unofficial patch available), and Ulead VS6 crashes if you try to get it to play a DV file in it's "storyboard" window! The only programme that doesn't seem to crash is software for my DTT digital televsion capture card!

I'm seriously thinking of trying Win 2000 as I just can't be bothered with the hassle of XP but do need the NTFS file system.

I'd go with Win 2K (supports NTFS) if I were you, I used to have dual win2k/winxp partitions but it got all screwed up once I installed SP1 for WinXP.

Sade

[spiderman2k1]

I use windows 2000 and i'm very happy I'm not saying go windows 2000 but NTFS is great. If you capture DVD with a capture card WINDOWs Xp and NTFS is great way to go again I use window 2000. DVD2DVD-r.de only work's in windows 2000 and XP. plus encoding is fast with windows 2000 and XP they do not use DOS so the OS run's faster. Also if you use DVDXCOPY the Matrix and only be back up with windows XP. I like DVD2ONE and Instant Copy 7 and DVDXCOPY and DVD2DVD-R and some time's DVD2SVCD. the onyl thing some old game's might not run in windows XP but XP is very stable

[Will Hay]

Remember it's a clean install on a 5 gig partition of an 80 gig drive. So far, Nero doesn't like it, TMPG doesn't like it, Panasonic MPEG1 Encoder doesn't like it, Power DVD XP plays in black and white (you have to re-start playback to get it in colour!), BBmpeg doesn't run (although there's now an unofficial patch available), and Ulead VS6 crashes if you try to get it to play a DV file in it's "storyboard" window! The only programme that doesn't seem to crash is software for my DTT digital televsion capture card!

Nero, TMPGEnc and TMPGEnc Plus, Power DVDXP, Ulead MF2 all wonderful on my WinXP.
Guess some of us have better luck than others
Will

[energy80s]

I might try Win 2000 as it is a more mature OS. I'm just fed up with programmes crashing every two or three minutes in XP!

[Evil Twin]

WOW thanks to all of you for your feedback!
Looks like I have a number of options to try here!

@ P@iNKilleR
So if I use dvd2one I can still use win98?
I use MakeItEasy with dvd3one and I can still keep the menus.
I'll try that.
btw, what did you use to burn? I'm still wondering about the video_ts folder not being in all caps issue.

@ dilligaf
Thats a great guide, congradulations! Very informative!
I have win98 and not win98se though, I think it should still work though.
I cannot author via ifoedit as I will be using a ntsc and ifedit has issues with authoring for ntsc.
I'll check on the dvdvideo template in nero.
I'll give it a try though.

@ the rest

I'll look into getting win2000 (if you know where pm me or something )
My first os was the win98, it was good except for the occasional blue screen crashes. My next pc had winMe and that was a nightmare! I switched over to xp when I could!! So I never tried win2000, sounds like I might like it!!

So at any rate I'll go step by step here, try dvd2one method, then the method by dilligaf, if I can't find win2000 out there, I'll go xp because I do have the disc for that already.

Thanks again to all!

[Khujo]

energy80s i strongly suggest you download some type of memory test application (memtest86) perhaps. The programs you listed should not crash under Windows XP. XP is by far a very stable os and in my experience using the programs you listed and repairing computers i would thing there is another problem with your computer. I have seen memory issues that were discovered after upgrading to Windows XP from previous versions based around DOS/Win9x that weren't noticed before, not saying that the problem wasn't there but they seemed not to affect the older os. A clean install of Windows XP and those programs you mentioned which are all usually stable from my experience simply should not crash. If i recall correctly memtest86 is a freeware program you can download and image to a floppy to possibly see if you have a bad stick of ram or something. just a thought...

[clairehoward]

rip all the film to the drive as usual with dvddecryptor use dvd2one to transcode the video to what ever size U wish then copy all the remaining ifo's & stuff minus the main film to the newly converted film folder. Once all this is done use makeiteasy to update the ifo & get the vts sectors qith ifoedit & then burn your nice dvd with extras & menu's.... to get better quality picture remove all subs & other languages U dont want prior to setting dvd2one re-encoding. another little thing to look at is a prog called menu edit as U can blank out the buttons on your menu which have no use ie subs & languages & maybe scene selection as they dont work correctly once re-encoded...

by Kev! (painkiller) on a cheerful friends pc


will work on 98 & se!!!!


all U need is the VIDEO_TS folder which can be renamed in caps on 98
to burn I used vob instant cd as it makes compliant dvd coz ner is just bad!!! bad!!! bad!!

[energy80s]

I was thinking along the line of faulty memory myself, although the fact that everything works OK under Win98 seems odd.

[Evil Twin]

My results:

DVDDecrypter shows that there might be some problem with the fat32 system so I used Smartripper instead.

used dvd2one burned with nero (dvd-video) and that worked.

used makeiteasy,ifoedit,dvd2one and burned with GearPro (as it added the AUDIO_TS folder automatically. and that worked also.

used Instant Copy 7 and that worked also.

I tried dvddecrypter (even though I got the fat 32 error) in iso mode to read, then to write, that worked as well.

I did notice with a memory monitor that while using ifoedit, dvd2one, instant copy and whatever burning software that the memory use did go down very low, at times I thought it was going to fail.

The whole process does take time, but I think it is because of the slow processor --a 450mhz.

IfoEdit keeps crashing on me though *shrug*


Hope this helps other people who wonder about this.