ADVC-50+DVIO= No Capture?

[shito]

Hi everybody!
First things first: thanks for having me started on the whole-computer-video-thing. The last couple of weeks I have been lurking around this site, trying to get an overview over the diverse methods of capturing, editing, reencoding, etc., which ultimately led to me buying the Canopus ADVC-50 and the Pinnacle Studio DV Firewire-Card (which contained the Studio 8-Software). My main goal was (and still is) to capture LDs and VHS to DVD for reasons of archiving and beeing able to share them with selected friends (I would NEVER EVER lend out an original LD, but that´s maybe just me ).

I´ve got questions about different parts of the whole capturing-editing-reencoding-burning-process and will try to split them up to put them in the right forums. Since we´re in the capturing-forum I´ll start with the capturing.

I´ve been able to capture DV fed to the Pinnacle card by the ADVC-50 with Studio 8 no problem (well, I have no sound while capturing, but I can live with that. Still, any suggestions?). For reasons of further editing and general fiddling-around-with the captured .AVIs, I wanted to try to capture with a different application, since Studio8 only captures DV Type 1, which doesn´t work very often, for example in VirtualDub, which I wanted to use for filtering. So tried DVIO, which should be the simplest app for capturing ever, but I can´t get any input. When I press the "Start capturing" button, nothing happens, it just sits there until I stop the capturing. No file is created. Since there aren´t really any settings in this app, it has to have something to do with my hardware, I guess. Any ideas? Same with VirtualDub, no input. I can´t even chose the Firewire-Card or the ADVC-50 as video-input. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance and greets from Germany!
Konrad

[The village idiot]

Silly question but, did you type in a drive & file name, and give it the .avi extension? DVio does not add the extension if you forget. And I haven't seen it count frames without actually putting something on the disk. Since you run XP, you should already have a codec installed (MS DV codec), so it should be working. But you will need a vfw codec to even see it in Vdub. Canopus & Main Concept both have vfw codecs for DV.

Also just a thought, have you tried using DVio after a boot, before doing anything else? Also I'm not very trusting of the Pinnacle software. I loaded some for the bugee, and it moved all the directX .ax files to it's own folder. This caused DVD movie factory to stop working. What a headache. Maybe DVio can no longer find the directX controls it is looking for?

[shito]

Silly question but, did you type in a drive & file name, and give it the .avi extension? DVio does not add the extension if you forget. And I haven't seen it count frames without actually putting something on the disk. Since you run XP, you should already have a codec installed (MS DV codec), so it should be working. But you will need a vfw codec to even see it in Vdub. Canopus & Main Concept both have vfw codecs for DV.

The drive and the file name was determined by the standard windows dialogue, with the .avi-extension automatically put in, so there shouldn´t be a problem here. About the vfw-codec: yeah, Vdub mentioned something about not being able to show what´s being captured, but shouldn´t it still capture? Or does it need the vfw-codec for the capturing-process itself? It shouldn´t, as far as I know, because the conversion into DV-material is done in the ADVC-50, right? It should just write the incoming data-stream from the firewire-card to the disc. Correct me if I´m wrong. And sorry if I was unclear about this, but DVIO didn´t count frames, it just did nothing, except change the "Start capturing"-button to "Stop capturing".
Besides, no such thing as silly questions (well, just about ). In my experience, it´s usually the silly stuff I get hung up on, ´cause I tend to act too fast and oversee things.

Also just a thought, have you tried using DVio after a boot, before doing anything else? Also I'm not very trusting of the Pinnacle software. I loaded some for the bugee, and it moved all the directX .ax files to it's own folder. This caused DVD movie factory to stop working. What a headache. Maybe DVio can no longer find the directX controls it is looking for?

No, I think, I haven´t tried that. But I´m sure gonna when I get home tonight. I´m at work right now, so I can´t check about the directx-files, either. But could you tell me precisely what to look for, so I can check this, as well? For me, DirectX always was something that was somewhere in my machine and never really bothered me much, since I´m not into gaming on the computer. That makes it hard for me to know what I´m looking for.

What surprises me most, is that the capturing works just fine with Studio8, not a problem there. Interesting ...

Greets
Konrad

[The village idiot]

I'm not really sure what to check about the ax files. I know when I tried to un-install the bungee, that there were several ax files that had been moved to a pinnacle folder, instead of the system32 folder where most of the others were located. I found these by deleting the pinnacle refferences in the registry. In the end, I formatted the drive and reinstalled the OS.

The only times that DVio did the same to me as it did to you, there was no video connected, or I started DVio before I connected the crappy Razzle box. Since the ADVC-50 is always connected, this shouldn't be a problem. And since you can capture using the pinnacle software, it seems to say that you have video. Don't suppose you have another computer you could try th ADVC-50 on? As long as it is win2000 or XP with DX8.1 or above, there should be no problems. DVio may work on a win98se box, but I haven't tried it. I have to setup a machine for the bungee, and I'll pay closer attention to what files get moved and where, and what registry entries get changed.

[energy80s]

I have never got DVIO to work either. It keeps saying that my camera isn't connected, even though VideoStudio sees it!

[shito]

Funny thing just happened: it worked. Just like that. Didn´t change anything, fiddled around with the computer and gave it another shot: bang, there it went. Weird. The saved .avi still didn´t work in Vdub, though. I guess, the ADVC-50 encodes DV Type 1 in hardware and DVIO really just writes it to disc, so there is no changing DV-types. I managed to make the DVs Vdub-compatible, though, by running them through a little application from the Canopus-site called Canopus_DV_File_Converter.exe. It lets you change into different Canopus-type DV-avi´s and even into MS DV-avi´s. So I´m not even really gonna need DVIO anymore, might as well use Studio8.

So this part worked now. On to the authoring-board!

Greets
Konrad

[yg1968]

I am not sure if you tried it already but you can select type 2 in DVIO. This should make it compatible with vdub.

[shito]

That´s actually what I wanted to use DVIO for, but I checked Type2 and the file was still not readable in Vdub. Who knows why. After using the above-mentioned app, everything wirked fine.

The truth is out there ....

Greets
Konrad