Rip Movie, Re encode, put back again?

[yesfan]

Ok....I've ripped the whole dvd, its too big to go onto dvd r. So I've taken the movie vobs to re encode and when done want to stick them back with the other stuff so I essentially have the whole thing, menus etc, but lesser quality to burn to a dvd r.

Done the re encode with dvd2avi and tmpgenc, stuck the chapters back in and used dvd maestro to build the new vobs etc. Test run it all with no probs.

Whats the easiest way to get the new vobs, ifo etc back with the original files and make them work the same as the originals? Do I need to rip the subs also or can I get away without using them if I dont need em?

Have already tried various tutorials but always come unstuck when trying to get it all back together. Tried using doom9 tutorial with cce and pulldown and ifoupdate, but it never works! I would rather stick with tmpgenc as I am familiar with it.

Thanks for any help.

[musher70]

i did this with episode II
http://www.dvd2dvdr.com/DVD-9.htm

came out to 4.29 gigs no menu's

2:25 mins,set the video rate at 3800kbs

[yesfan]

Thanks for the reply, but thats not what I am after. I need to keep all the original menus and stuff as they are on the original disk but just change the movie size then put all back together.

DVD2DVDR just tells you how to rip, encode and author new menus.

[baked@420]

well...my 2 cents....i just rip and split to 2 dvd-r's....keep ALL the quality (what we like about dvd's in the 1st place)...and keep ALL the extras....sure its an extra disk, but their getting cheap online anyways...


ne1 remember a 10 buck cdr????

l8r

[yesfan]

so if you split to 2 DVDR do you have to guess when to stick the other disk in or does it stop like an svcd? Does the movie go onto one disk (if poss) and the other stuff onto the next?

How does it all work then.

[Wolfmancatsup]

Yesfan - the dvd-9 to 2 * dvd-5's method basically puts the first layer of the dvd-9 on one disc, and the second on the other. If you see a slight pause when you're watching the film on the original, that's the point that the film wil be split. You'll basically end up with two discs with identical menu's; if you select a menu option on, say, disc one, that points to something that's on disc two, nothing will happen. If you're watching the film and it gets to the split point (ie the point where you need to insert the second disc), the film will just freeze-frame at this point (although I think I have one that just returns to the menu) so's you know to insert the second one.

Hope that's of some help,

JeffC

[eatin sammiches for lunch]

WAIT

dont split the dvd to 2 discs(that sucks) u can still keep everything on one disc

if u want to keep everything from the dvd (includes menus, extras, etc)
only thing u need to do is change some details in the original movie ifo
and theres a program that will do all this for u...IFOUPDATE ..u get get this at doom9.org

what u need is the ORIGINAL movie ifo (the one off the dvd) and the NEW movie authored ifo (the ifo u got from mastro)

start up ifoupdate load in the original ifo, then load in the new authored ifo then run the program it will update the ifo in less than a second

then u just add the new vobs + the updated ifo back with the other dvd files

then burn

[baked@420]

eatin......but what about the quality loss in the movies then????? you have to do sumthing to make 7.5 gigs fit on a 4.7 gig disc....i dont think that just messing with a ifo will make that happen.....and besides....all the "reauthoring" stuff can be a big hassel......it takes me 1/2 hour to rip and splita dvd, takes 1 hour to burn both discs = less than 2 hours total....how long do all the other methods take??? quite a bit longer i think, plus its still just a hassle....

not getting in nebody face...just giving my 2 cents

have fun no matter what you do

l8r

baked

[musher70]

heck, thats amount of time is like a grain of sand...
it took me 8 hrs just to recode,burning dvds is an
hr,spruce up well over an hr

maybe u should go buy it, u'd get a cool case to put
it in....

[yesfan]

Thanks for the advice eatin.

So I start ifoupdate load the original movie vob ifo ( or is it the VIDEO_TS.IFO?) then load the new encoded movie vob ifo, update and replace the old original vob ifo with the new updated vob ifo, then replace the movie vobs?

What about the bup file, does that get replaced with the new one also?

If I rip the subtitles out and re encode without them will that make any difference when putting it all back together again?

Thanks for any help

[Adder_78]

eatin......but what about the quality loss in the movies then????? you have to do sumthing to make 7.5 gigs fit on a 4.7 gig disc....i dont think that just messing with a ifo will make that happen.....and besides....all the "reauthoring" stuff can be a big hassel......it takes me 1/2 hour to rip and splita dvd, takes 1 hour to burn both discs = less than 2 hours total....how long do all the other methods take??? quite a bit longer i think, plus its still just a hassle....

not getting in nebody face...just giving my 2 cents

have fun no matter what you do

l8r

baked

the quality loss is not that big if you use CCE and VBR encoding(4 pass)...

I don't understand those people how want's 2 dvd-r disc's instead of 1(unless you have dvd-changer or girlfriend that is willing to change the second disc )... but that's just me... I don't keep the menus and extras(waste of time and quality)...

yes the re-encoding takes time but when you sleep it really dosent matter

Zzzzzzzzzz

[eatin sammiches for lunch]

Its Ok to have your own opinion, i'm not taking it in a bad way due to the fact that before i knew how to transcode properly for excellent quality i too split dvd's to 2 different disc ( i only split two and i hated having 2 disc for 1 movie so i spent my time reading and trying until I got everything down.

but i guarantee if u try a transcode with CCE (using the robshot method from doom9.org) u will come out with EXCELLENT quality on your movie results.

Just give it a try..what do u have to lose?......oh yea u would have something to lose..a dvd per movie, a two dvd split will now become 1 dvd


and yes its more time consuming but if i wanted a movie on two discs i wouldnt have bought a dvd burner i would just do a dvd-> svcd conversion.

give it a try

eatin......but what about the quality loss in the movies then????? you have to do sumthing to make 7.5 gigs fit on a 4.7 gig disc....i dont think that just messing with a ifo will make that happen.....and besides....all the "reauthoring" stuff can be a big hassel......it takes me 1/2 hour to rip and splita dvd, takes 1 hour to burn both discs = less than 2 hours total....how long do all the other methods take??? quite a bit longer i think, plus its still just a hassle....

not getting in nebody face...just giving my 2 cents

have fun no matter what you do

l8r

baked

[eatin sammiches for lunch]

Thanks for the advice eatin.

So I start ifoupdate load the original movie vob ifo ( or is it the VIDEO_TS.IFO?) then load the new encoded movie vob ifo, update and replace the old original vob ifo with the new updated vob ifo, then replace the movie vobs?

What about the bup file, does that get replaced with the new one also?

If I rip the subtitles out and re encode without them will that make any difference when putting it all back together again?

Thanks for any help

yes load ifoupdate load the MOvie ifo(not the video_ts) load the authored ifo

then select update ifo...then its gonna update some stuff in the original ifo by looking at the authored ifo

so the original ifo u selected will be updated so put that in your dvd folder along with the new movie vobs

it doesnt matter if u have subtitles

make sure u do a get vts sectors before u burn

read the readme that comes with ifoupdate and also view this thread that talks about ifoudate

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17400

before ifoudate u had to do all that manually..which was a pain

[yesfan]

thanks for the help.....encoding now and will try your method.

[yesfan]

Oh I forgot...do I copy across the new bup file or just keep the original one?

I also get a new VTS_01_0.VOB after the encoding and authoring with maestro, if I copy this across it will overwrite the menu vob ( which VTS_01_0.VOB usually is) so do I leave this one and just copy accross VTS_01_1.VOB, VTS_01_2.VOB etc as these are the main film?

Thanks

[eatin sammiches for lunch]

Oh I forgot...do I copy across the new bup file or just keep the original one?

I also get a new VTS_01_0.VOB after the encoding and authoring with maestro, if I copy this across it will overwrite the menu vob ( which VTS_01_0.VOB usually is) so do I leave this one and just copy accross VTS_01_1.VOB, VTS_01_2.VOB etc as these are the main film?

Thanks

the bup will be updated also
dont copy over the VTS_01_0.vob.....just the movie vobs

[yesfan]

When I use ifoupdate it only creates a new ifo file (with an extra file extension which I assume I have to remove before using it?) but no bup file. Does it update the bup in the orginal rip automatically or does it update the bup in the encoded, re authored files that then has to be copied accross?

Sorry to sound thick but I just want to get it right.

[yesfan]

Just done Ali G Indahouse, works fine....thanks for the advice eatin!

Looks like I almost had it sorted in the first place. Seems the updated ifo need a _ changed for a . as well as a BAK being removed.

Just need to sort out the subtitles now and everything will be okay. Any tips for subrip and Maestro? Is it just a matter of putting the subs file into Maestro before authoring? I notice the doom tutorial talks about using pulldown and swapping m2v files, whats that all about?

Cheers m8