Pinnacle Studio de luxe card non-CCE compatible AVI????

[Kjelt]

Hello everybody,
I am rather new at this but here is the situation:
I bought a Pinnacle Studio deluxe capture card with analog and DV in/out
and want to capture analog video to an AVI file that can be processed by CCE. Currently I am using Pinnacle Studio 8 but this can only capture to some kind of Pinnacle compatible AVI (PinAVI) which unfortunately is not accepted by CCE (version 2.64)
Ofcourse I can rerender the PinAVI to DV and then use CCE but then I loose quality and it takes up a lot of time. Experimenting with studio8 I found the Radix AVI to be the best but this takes 20 times RealTime (20 hours for one hour of video) which is absurd.
So the question is: is there any software that allows me to capture from my Pinnacle card into a CCE compatible AVI?
thanks in advance for your responses.

Kjelt.

[RoopeT]

Install PicVideo MJPEG codec. You can capture using the PicVideo codec with Studio, and PicVideo avi's can be frameserved to CCE with avisynth.

I know this works because a friend of mine had the same problem and after fighting some weeks this is now how he captures (and with very good results!)

[Kjelt]

Thanks RoopeT! It works beautifully.

Just if someone else in the same situation reads this post a slight comment:
I still can NOT capture video directly in PicVideo but still in Pinnacles own lossless JPEG format. After the capture I can however using studio ver8 recode (transcode) making an AVI into the PicView MJPEG format, and this AVI can directly be handled by CCE. It works great. Takes about 2.5 times Realtime for the whole process so that is not such a pain (compared to the 20 times RT the Radius codec took)
Thanks again!

[RoopeT]

I still think you should be able to capture straight to PicVideo, but as I don't have a Pinnacle card I can't check it myself. I try to get some more details from my friend.

The method you're using now just wastes too much HD space.

[SV_Trinity]

Do you think the same would work for the CREATIVE DIGITAL VCR capture card? Despite Creative's claims, it does use a "proprietary" MPEG2 format that can't be played on a standaloneDVD player.

[TapsaL]

When you have installed the PicVideo Codec make sure
that you have enabled it.
When enabled PicVideo "takes over" from Pinnacles own
codec, that's at least whats happening with my Studio 7/8,
Pinnacle DC 10+ set up.

[Kjelt]

RoopeT:
when capturing I can NOT choose which codec it uses. The pulldown box is greyed-out. So if you know how to "force" Pinnacle studio 8 to use the PicVideo codec I would appreciate it.

On the other hand rereading your first message you say that you're friend still has to use the AviSynth frameserver method. In my method of recoding this is no longer necessary the avi can directly be handles by CCE. But next weekend I will try if the AviSynth frameserver method also works for the Pinnacle Avi since then I agree it would save time and HDD space.



TapsaL:
I am quite sure the PicVideo Codec is enabled otherwise how could I recode (transcode) my Pinnacle JPEG into PicVideo as I mentioned in my 2nd post?

thanks for all the help people

Kjelt

[TapsaL]

[quote="Kjelt"]RoopeT:
when capturing I can NOT choose which codec it uses. The pulldown box is greyed-out. So if you know how to "force" Pinnacle studio 8 to use the PicVideo codec I would appreciate it.

Well I'm the friend Roope is referring to ,and I do not need to do anything
to force my Studio7/8 to use the PicVideo codec.When it is installed and
enabled my Dc 10+ starts using it, maybe it's the issue of the capture
hardware?
Are you sure your captures are not encoded with PicVideo? I can tell it
by removing the codec's serial numbers and the Pic Video text appears
in my captures.
You could give it a try to try to open your AVI's with the avisynth script
- that might work. If I remember correctly I did not work for me.
Good Luck!
TapsaL

[RoopeT]

On the other hand rereading your first message you say that you're friend still has to use the AviSynth frameserver method.

This is just because we're using CCE 2.50, which has problems with avis > 4Gb.

You could give it a try to try to open your AVI's with the avisynth script
- that might work. If I remember correctly I did not work for me.

Avisource doesn't work with Pinnacle avis, DirectShowSource might work.