DC10+ --- capturing freezes in "Studio DC10plus"

[EP10]

Hi,
when capturing in "Studio DC10plus" or VirtualDub the Overlay freezes. Only when i switch to another program like explorer and return to Studio DC10plus or VirtualDub it lets me see the most "latest" frame.

In VirtualDub the overlay works, but that's not perfect for looking.

Capturing works good, but i now have to start and stop capturing only depending on sound.

By the way, can i capture at 480x576 with the DC10+ ?
In "Studio DC10plus" it's not configurable and in VirtualDub it's not allowed by Pinnacle drivers.

Any help conserning these matters is greatly appreciated

[disturbed1]

You'll get lock ups and other wierd things when you switch back and forth between programs. I just leave only my capture program running.

In V-DUB you can select a custom size. 480x576 may cut off too much aroung the edges. I've capped at 480x480, but it did cut too much off, I just stick with 640x480 6megs/sec.

[EP10]

It locks up when i start from scratch at the first frame the overlay produces. Normaly i don't switch program's when i capture, but this "trick/workaround" updates the overlay with the "latest" frame.
Tried also demo-software like AVI_IO but no difference.

Preview is not an option in "Studio DC10plus" as far as i know, or is it....?

480x576 PAL is for creating SVCD's. What i now do is capture at 720x576 and resize with VirtualDub to 480x576 (SVCD PAL standard).

[Trifu]

I get the same lock up problem as you do, but I have an even worst problem,
I can only capture once, then if I want to capture again I have to reboot my computer........quite annoying!!!

[EP10]

Trifu,

i have a AMD 1000, 256Mb memory, 60Gb 7200rpm HD, Viper V770 Ultra

Strangly enough DDraw is not given the green smiley although latest drivers and ActiveX8 is installed. ActiveX says that Direct Draw works OK.

Switching colors from 32 bits to 16bits also helped me.

Also make sure you run the DC10+ hardware configuration and test your HD speed. These results are not always true though. When 100Mb is written en read, it takes 6 seconds in total. It should be approx 30000 write and 30000 read, but it's only a fraction of it.

Capturing at 720x540 works perfect now, but 720x576 is very very bad. Lot's of lost frames. Strange!

[Trifu]

wow..........how are you able to capture in such strange frame sizes with dc10+?

and what do you use those frame sizes for? is it any better then 640 X 480?

and I get green smiles for everything! but I still get no preview....I'm thinking it's not working properly cuz I updated my videocard drivers after I had already installed dc10+, and due to some old registry files or what not, it's perventing it from working properly, but who knows?

[EP10]

Trifu,

The strang framesize is a typo, it should be 768x576

My "hardware conflict" is solved. Although i share the same IRQ for my videocard and my netwerk-card, using AGP4 and the latest drivers and altering/adding some registry intries it all works fine now.

You talk about capturing at 640x480, but is this possible? in Studio and Virtual it isn't as far as i know.

You get green smileys even for the third option (DDraw)?
I only get a check-box which i can check / uncheck.

By unchecking it, i got the Overlay to work in all capture programs. Checking it ment that only preview in VirtualDub and Vidcap worked. No Overlay. In Studio there doen't seem to be a preview-option, or does it?

The videocard is a RivaTNT2 Ultra based, and you can get "reference"-drivers which are normaly newer then the drivers from the card-company self.

On the pinnacle support site there is a reg-file called DC10.reg and is for solving some problems with processors >900 Mhz
No garanties. Check the info-file.

Another link for the file, besides the pinnacle site, is:
http://www.videotipps-2.purespace.de/berichte/tools/dc10reg.zip


Also check:
http://videotipps.purespace.de/download.htm

My solvations:
Videocard-setting -->800x600 16bit
DMA checked for capture drive
disable "write behind caching" under system \ troubleshooting
No DDraw checked for the pinnacle Hardware Test.
As you have a smiley for this this could be impossible.

Good luck!

[J Crew]

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On 2001-08-12 21:50:20, Trifu wrote:
I get the same lock up problem as you do, but I have an even worst problem,
I can only capture once, then if I want to capture again I have to reboot my computer........quite annoying!!!

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have you found a root to your problem? i have the same exact problem, except with adobe premier... everytime i capture i have to reboot. and sometimes i can't even finish capturing before it locks up. anyone have any ideas?

[Trifu]

EP10
hmmm..........I still have no idea how you're capturing at such frame sizes in studioDC10+, cuz you basically have two choices, 320X240 or 640X480,

and yes you were correct about that 3rd box thing not being a smiley face, it's a check box,

J Crew,
I never really found the root problem to why it was freezing on me and making me reboot everytime,
but I bought a new Hard drive and formatted my computer, and now it's all good!, (except for the preview window in DC10+, still can't get it to show me what I"m capturing, it just shows the first frame and that's it)
but yeah..........if you have the time and the will power....format!,
personally, I think the problem isn't with premiere but with your capture card's drivers.......

[zed]

I have a dc10+ and have captured at the max resolution at high bitrate and only had 15 frames dropped in 1hr 40 mins, I personally think it is an excellent card just a shame it does not capture to mpeg

Zed

[EP10]

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On 2001-08-18 05:36:09, zed wrote:
I have a dc10+ and have captured at the max resolution at high bitrate and only had 15 frames dropped in 1hr 40 mins, I personally think it is an excellent card just a shame it does not capture to mpeg

Zed
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Zed, this is good new, the part of the capturing 1 hour and 40 minutes.
I placed the following Topic: http://www.vcdhelp.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=54271&forum=2&9
Which is about the "71 minute max" capture problem of the DC10+

The story goes that this is something which could not be solved. I myself use "Studio DC10plus" and cannot go beyond it. Tried all there is, but everything fails to go further then 71 minutes of capturing.

How did you do that?

[EP10]

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On 2001-08-18 00:40:19, Trifu wrote:
EP10
hmmm..........I still have no idea how you're capturing at such frame sizes in studioDC10+, cuz you basically have two choices, 320X240 or 640X480,
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Trifu,
I use PAL and for me there is not an option to use "Studio DC10plus" and capture at 640x480.
Do you use VirtualDub or something else to capture at 640x480?
Only NTSC can capture 640x480.

[Trifu]

When I bought StudioDC10+ it came with the program named "Studio DC10+" and in it I can capture, edit, and even export to tape (but I"ve never actually been able to export!), anyways, in the capturing settings, you can capture at 2 sizes 320, or 640, (horizontal), and 240, or 480 (veritcal). I hit on the "user defined" button, and then I go into capture settings and choose to capture at 640X480, oh, and I also capture at 6Mbits/sec

[EP10]

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On 2001-08-18 23:54:58, Trifu wrote:
When I bought the DC10+ it came with the program named "Studio DC10+" and in it I can capture, edit, and even export to tape (but I"ve never actually been able to export!), anyways, in the capturing settings, you can capture at 2 sizes 320, or 640, (horizontal), and 240, or 480 (vertical). I hit on the "user defined" button, and then I go into capture settings and choose to capture at 640X480, oh, and I also capture at 6Mbits/sec
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You a correct because you capture in NTSC modus.
Want to use other capture settings, try PAL or SECAM.
Then you can capture at 768x576 (non-cropped).

Difference between PAL/SECAM and NTSC is that PAL uses 25fps frame rate and NTSC uses roughly 30fps


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[zed]

As long as you are using studio version 6 (get the update from http://www.pinnaclesys.com if you are not) it will create another file when the 71 minute has been reached or if the file size is more than 2 gig - whichever comes first. Like I say I have capture 1hr 40 mins of video with no problems as it just went on through and created new files when it needed to, I ended up with around 14 files and all the captures where fine and I only had 15 dropped frames and that was due to the source. Check out http://wboard.pinnaclesys.com/read_forums.asp?WebboardID=1&SectionID=2&lng=1 for more info on the Studio DC10+ and version 6 of the software.

Let me know if I can help further

Zed

[zed]

'Difference between PAL/SECAM and NTSC is that PAL uses 15fps frame rate and NTSC uses roughly 30fps'

What?? pal is 25 fps!!

Zed

[zed]

Apologies - I refer to studio vbersion 6 in my post I actually meant version 1.06. A version 7 is coming out shortly though...

Zed

[EP10]

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What?? pal is 25 fps!!
Zed
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Oops, ..... Typo!

Will check the other forum. Thanks for the tip!

[neto]

If you're using NTSC you can capture at 320X240, 320X480, 640X480 and the date rate depends on the speed of your HD.

I capture with VirtualDub and in the custom size i use 320X480 if i want to make a VCD. And 640X480 for a SVCD. My capture data rate is something like 2000kb/s and it looks great in the final MPG.

VIDEO OVERLAY
For those with problems in this topic, make sure you have activated the "preview". you can check it right clicking the Pinnacle logo in the sistemtray, this opens "StudioDC10+ Control". Then press ALT+Spacebar and there you'll see an option "video output&preview" CHECK IT.

[EP10]

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On 2001-08-19 12:36:26, neto wrote:
VIDEO OVERLAY
For those with problems in this topic, make sure you have activated the "preview". you can check it right clicking the Pinnacle logo in the sistemtray, this opens "StudioDC10+ Control". Then press ALT+Spacebar and there you'll see an option "video output&preview" CHECK IT.
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They really hide those things don't they...
It whas checked by the way

[Trifu]

neto, why don't you capture at a higher rate? like 6Mbits/sec?
and why don't you capture at 640X480, then in tmpg correct it to the right size, I found when doing that I got much better quality then capturing at 320X240,