I H8 ULEAD DVD WORKSHOP!

[darthbane2k]

Yes I hate this software.
Now i CAPTURED an 80 min video from Mini DV FROM Uleads bloody dvd workshop software and set up a basic menu. Now when I come to encode the thing it takes me 30 hrs.. no lie, and YES I checked the DO NOT CONVERT COMPLIANT FILE option, so after 30 hrs all is okay it tries to write a disc image and it tells me my hard drive has run out of space?? How the f**k it worked that out I dont know as i have 40 gigs free!!! and the process according to ULEAD would only use 12 Gig. Anyway so im pissed off right but at least the video has encoded... I gathered that because my drive was partitioned and with dodgy dos drive letters etc I decided to uncheck the write disc image option and just write straight to dvd disc.. so WITHOUT cancelling anything or restarting ulead I simply clicked on START again and guess what it starts to encode again! Now I got to wait another 30 hrs for this shit. I cant believe it. Is there any way around this. this is ridiclious, seeing that i encoded WITHIN Ulead DVD WS I would gather it would already be mpeg thus not neededing a 30 hr reencode every blasted time.

[darthbane2k]

OH BLOODY HELL

Come on, someone reply PLEASE.

ULEAD is driving me mad, I cant afford to reencode for 30 hrs + every time.

[epo]

My first advice - change attitude!
My first guess - since DVD is slightly over 4Gig, You have ran over FAT32 filesize limit.
My second advice - use NTFS for target drive (actually everything related to DVD)

[darthbane2k]

Yeah soz bout the attitude but ULEAD really stresses me out.

Okay, I see your point about FAT 32 but.. I cant. I have multiple drives one with 2 gig left is NTFS the other two are FAT 32 they have to be kept as FAT32 as I dual boot from windows xp into windows 98 for video editing. Editing is only fast on Windows 98.

Secondly, If I do not create a disc image and just burn to dvd disc do you think this will work instead as I dont want to risk another 30 hr encode.

Why does it RE-ENCODE anyway?

[darthbane2k]

Can somebody help please.

[epo]

Without creating disk image ... might be possible (I'm pretty sure it is) if You are sure, re-encoding was complete. If MPEG-file is just under 4Gig, (VOB-s are 1 Gig each anyway) image will be over 4Gig. But You don't need to create image.

[ItsMe]

Why are you creating an image? If its just to be on the safe side (in case something crashes) why not creat the VIDEO_TS & AUDIO_TS files on your hard drive and then burn them to your DVD-R. This will avoid the 4Gig limit impossed on fat32.

Btw. when creating a DVD with ulead the VIDEO- & AUDIO_TS files are always created in a temp folder. This means that when you create an image the program uses about 9 Gig when creating it.

good luck

[Nelson37]

Fat32 is going to hurt you with the 4 gig limit, that's your drivespace error.

TMPGenc or CCE or Mainconcept probably better encoders than Ulead.

Should be workable without image but you will make a lot of expensive coasters that way.

[darthbane2k]

Yeh. Im going to change my windows 98 dual boot to win 200 afterwards. I just need one disc burned... Ulead estimates my disc will use 4.2 gigs of space so even if i am using fat32 drive for working directory if i do a straight burn without creating image first it should work right?
Hope so... like I say, 30 hr encodes.

Anyway.. I can burn one disc off then create an image of that disc through nero onto my ntfs drive.

You think this will work?

Sorry to ask so many questions but.... 30 HOURS!!

[darthbane2k]

Right. its still encoding in the background but I found the directory it was working from before and it has several mpeg files within it, most are 1 gig, some are 900 mb and the audio file from my menu is also there.

If these are the files the DVD needs then why oh why is it encoding again?

[epo]

IF MPEG fits in 4Gig limit. But now I have serious doubts about it. What I now think, it re-encodes, because couldn't finish it first time. Namely - if You don't use another vid in project, DVD space used is pretty much same as .mpg size. So, best You can do is to lower datarate to max 7200-7500 VBR (You are using 8000 VBR, right ?!) depending on length of Your video and audio datarate (I don't remember Uled's default). If You supply me with these 2 figures, I can calculate right video datarate for You.
Ulead is good encoder with its weakness - max/avg in VBR is not right. Most other suggested encoders have its weaknesses too: TMPG is disaster with interlaced video. CCE is way too expensive.
UPDATE: If it splits mpg, You are quite safe. Did You supply Your vid as one clip?

[Nolonemo]

To respond to your first post, DVDWS converted the captured file because it was not a complaint mpg file - the captured files are avi. That feature only works if you have encoded your avi to mpg outside of DVDWS (for example, with TMPGenc) beforehand.

[darthbane2k]

Okay.

The video length is 80 mins approx so I changed bitrate to 6000 in order to fit on one disc.

Now It its still re-encoding but now I have instructed it to burn straight to disc rather than produce an iso.. im confident it will burn right first time.

Thing is ulead created a directory (when it initally encoded) that has several mpegs in it.. they are mainly 1 gig each..
I know that my project was made up of around various 4 gig mpegs which were split into chapters. therefore im guessing this mysterious directory with mpegs is the dvd that was supposed to be burnt or turned into an iso file first time. I tried playing several files in that directory through windows media player and sure enough they were my dvd.. im assuming these files are converted mpeg compliant files so therefore can I just use these to quickly burn or do I have to wait for this current reencode to end??

[yesfan]

Are the files already dvd compliant when you try to burn with ulead?

What bitrate are you choosing when burning with ulead?

If you choose a higher bitrate than the original encode i.e if you encoded at 5000 choose 8000 when burning the file. Ulead will then burn without re encoding.

[Letus]

If time is your problem, try to use NeoDVD, it doesn't have much control on your DVD creating but it's fast and easy. It can convert from analog or firewire capturing in realtime if your CPU is 1.1 GHz or faster. 3 hours can get your DVD done.

[darthbane2k]

I am burning 6000 bitrate.
I captured the video from mini dv withing ULEAD DVDWS so I have NO IDEA what bitrate it was initially.
Please bare in mind that this is a 80 min video and 6000 will just about allow me to completly fit it on a dvd-r.

The files had to be encoded once.. took 30 hrs, but after the disc space error it insisted on encoding again which is weird as initially it got to the iso image writing stage so im guess complete conversion already occured with the video files.. now its encoding again.. another 2 days wasted.
Thing is is discovered a directory on my drive created from the first encoding session which contains mpeg files of my video.. it has audio i used for the menu also. Now the mpegs are split around 1 gig each and the total size of the directory is 4.2 gig, ironically the size ulead estimated the DVD to be.. now these files, are they already converted? if they're mpeg they must be, so how can i use these converted files to burn me a dvd within the next hour or so, avoiding re encoding for 30 bloody hours.

[darthbane2k]

bump

come on people!
Lets try and get this problem solved
I know that many many people try and use ULEAD DVDWS and this re encoding nonsenses stresses everyone out.

By the way im using a pentium 2 400 mhz

[darthbane2k]

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!

Okay that mysterious directory full of mpegs was my dvd all I did was reenter those files in my project as they had already been successfully converted to mpeg, then I entered the same bitrate as before for burning and it skipped the conversion process immediately and began to multplex!!

[MoovyGuy]

You know,

If you had a computer that could handle the encoding task properly, it wouldn't have taken so long.

A PII 400Mhz is not considered an adequate system for what you are trying to acomplish. You need a wholesale replacement if you are going to continue to produce DVD's in this manner.

At a minimum, without breaking the bank, you should get a system, either AMD or Intel, that is at least 1.5Ghz, 256 to 512 meg ram wouldn't hurt either and of course as much disk as you can handle ... Oh yeah, no win9x junk... Win2k or WinXP so that you can use NTFS on very large volumes ....


P.S. Bumping your message and getting impatient after waiting only 20 minitues for a post is kinda rude, don;t you think ?

[Lavatai]

Hey - it's really not that hard !

It appears that your problem is that you didn't specify your capture settings in DVDWS.
You need to
1) Change capture driver - you need to CHOOSE Mpeg capture, or else you will just capture an .avi file.

2) After choosing mpeg, you can then set your capture settings......
The way to find out if you've set them right is to right-click on the captured file.....you will see the format and bitrate right there.

Hope this helps,
TJ