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    How common is it that CVD is supported by a standalone DVD player? Is it a "standard" like VCD or just "sometimes" like SVCD?

    Hope y understand what i mean..
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  2. Take a look in the DVD Players List on the left, but it's probably not widely supported. Probably more so by cheap players and not expensive players.
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    Please post in the corrrrrrect forum.

    It is like SVCD, if the dvd player supports svcd it usually supports cvd also.
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    sry if i posted wrong, but in what forum was this supposed to be posted?
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    I moved it here to the dvd players forum, you posted it in the dvd writers forum.
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    Originally Posted by Baldrick
    I moved it here to the dvd players forum, you posted it in the dvd writers forum.
    aha, sry, i thougt i put in in the DVD forum, have to get glasses
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  7. CVD is a full established standard (e.g., like VCD and SVCD) but it is rather more obscure.

    When the SVCD standard was ratified, CVD (a contender) had already been around for a while (with discs and stand-alone players released) so it was required for SVCD compatible players to be compatible with the existing CVD discs.

    Thus, fully SVCD compliant players should be able to play CVD discs.

    From comments on this forum, most do... However, "SVCD" compatibility is dodgy on many players and it appears that some players don't play CVD properly.

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    Mostly Region 1 NTSC Standalone players have problems with CVD. About 1/3 of the NTSC SVCD compatible DVD standalones, don't support CVD.
    The same file, if you burn it on DVD disc, plays with no probs!

    From the other hand, there is not a simply report yet for Pal Region 2 + players and CVD problems.
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  9. I've had problems played CVD on my pioneer 535 (PAL, R4) though it plays SVCD's ok. Of course that could simply be that I haven't managed to create a decent CVD yet.....
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    R4 Pal players are not the same R2 ones...

    I suggest you to try 352 X 576 @ 2480 CBR, audio 224kb/s @ 44100khz saplerate. Be carefoul of the field order you choose through encode.
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  11. Originally Posted by Daveb
    I've had problems played CVD on my pioneer 535 (PAL, R4) though it plays SVCD's ok. Of course that could simply be that I haven't managed to create a decent CVD yet.....
    Scope out this sweet guide dude....
    http://vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/98177.php
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    Originally Posted by SatStorm
    R4 Pal players are not the same R2 ones...
    Please, by all means, if you're willing to, do elaborate. You got me curious.

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    It is another side effect of the regions.
    R2 players are more flexible R4 ones.
    You see, R4 players are big orders from local dealers. Australia is a good but small market, so a R4 player is only made under deal.
    R2 players are made first and then the manufacture try to find a european dealer. So, if a R2 player have to succeed in the european market, they have to be more flexible and have more characteristics. The European gonna choose only what has more and it is cheaper.
    In Australia want it or not, you have 2 -3 choises from big brands and thats it. Big manufactures support only standards. They don't care for flexibility....
    So, it isn't a big suprise that R4 players don't support x and exotic formats like CVD.

    Let me tell you an example: In europe, Sony DVD standalones don't sell any more. Why? Because the mainstream European costumer won't buy them, 'cause they are not flexible with CD based formats and it is difficult to hack them (needs most of the time hardware changes). But in the rest of the world, Sony is the no1 DVD standalone dealer...
    Many US users of this forum, now having apex standalones for example, are conserned "extreme" users in US marketing terms....

    It's all about marketing, money and stuff
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  14. Actually, my understanding is that (for all the larger brands at least -- and undoubtedly many smaller OEMs) that the players we have in Australia are exactly the same as the ones overseas.

    The manufacturers don't actually make separate R1, 2, 4, etc., models. It is (often) the identical machine except they simply set the region coding in the factory (or that the player defaults to NTSC rather than PAL).

    If you get a DVD player in New Zealand, by law they don't have region coding at all!

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    Well, probably today is logical to happen the way you said it, but a couple of years ago, no. I know that there were many and notified differences between R2 and R4 players.
    I believe that there still many R4 players on stock from that period, so I suggest to buy only new products there on Australia.

    Even newer sony standalones now support most CD-Rs
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  16. Probably...

    And yes, all newer Sony DVD models here (Australia) now advertise CD-R support.

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  17. Originally Posted by fmctm1sw
    Originally Posted by Daveb
    I've had problems played CVD on my pioneer 535 (PAL, R4) though it plays SVCD's ok. Of course that could simply be that I haven't managed to create a decent CVD yet.....
    Scope out this sweet guide dude....
    http://vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/98177.php
    Thanks, I'd had a lok at that already. I think the problem may have been a combination of what I was doing and the software I was using to burn (Power Director). Switched to Nero, no problems.
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  18. Originally Posted by SatStorm
    R4 Pal players are not the same R2 ones...

    I suggest you to try 352 X 576 @ 2480 CBR, audio 224kb/s @ 44100khz saplerate. Be carefoul of the field order you choose through encode.
    Thanks, got it working (see other post)
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